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Aug 06, 2013 09:05 |  #1

Hello folks, having a dilemma.. having tried 2 x sigma 35 1.4 I have given up, as even with the dock I couldn't get focus accurate enough for me to be happy with it...and to be honest having used it for a bit 35 was a little tiny bit wide anyway. So its been returned back to Amazon for a refund.

I've had the 40mm pancake before and loved it but for some reason I'm drawn to the sigma 50mm... eeeek I here you cry. I know this lens gets a bad rep but I would be buying from Amazon so if there are any issues with it then I could just return it for another one / refund. I love shooting at 1.4 and this is what draws me to the 50mm over the pancake. I've had two canon 50 1.4 and find it horrible so wouldn't have another.

So do I chance my luck with the sigma lottery on the 50 or save my self some cash and go for the pancake.. thoughts??


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Aug 06, 2013 09:09 |  #2

After owning the sigma 35 I got the pancake for a "lightweight" option. The IQ was good, but the IQ of the s35 is incredible. The f2.8 aperture was also just way too slow. Sold it pretty quick.

The sigma 50 1.4 is supposed to be the 50L's equal in many regards, personally I find that if it takes 3 or 4 copies of a lens to get an incredible copy, it's worth it. If I were you I wouldn't give up on the s35.


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Aug 06, 2013 09:18 |  #3

On a full-frame body with microadjustment I wouldn't hesitate to buy the Sigma 50mm, especially at the current price. I had one briefly for my old 40D but the focus issues were pronounced and the focal length was too long for my taste. Both of these "problems" would be rectified on a 5DII. If possible, buy the lens locally so you can test it out before purchase.


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Aug 06, 2013 09:22 |  #4

If I were you I wouldn't give up on the s35.

It was a tough call because when it got it right, it was amazing. I just didn't have faith enough in it, every time I used it I was over analysing everything... which is my fault I know. I just couldnt get it to constantly focus Plus like I say, the 35mm was a bit wide really. I'm thinking the 50mm to honest.


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Aug 06, 2013 09:24 |  #5

On a full-frame body with microadjustment I wouldn't hesitate to buy the Sigma 50mm, especially at the current price. I had one briefly for my old 40D but the focus issues were pronounced and the focal length was too long for my taste. Both of these "problems" would be rectified on a 5DII. If possible, buy the lens locally so you can test it out before purchase.

This is what I was thinking, run it through dot tune and hope for the best. I would agree on buying local but Amazon have such a good return policy and its a great price.


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Aug 11, 2013 04:39 |  #6

Just to resurrect / update this from the other day.. I went with the sigma. Am now awaiting my 3rd one! The first two back focused more than MA could fix, the second I couldn't even get sharp focus using manual focus and live view x10! Will give the 3rd one a go when I get it..lets hope 3rd time lucky! Think if the 3rd one is no good I'll give up :(


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Aug 11, 2013 05:10 |  #7

Seems you have got a very bad karma when buying Sigma.. Have you tried them on another body?




  
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Aug 11, 2013 05:33 |  #8

hennie wrote in post #16198048 (external link)
Seems you have got a very bad karma when buying Sigma.. Have you tried them on another body?

No I only have the one body...all my other lenses are ok though.


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Aug 11, 2013 05:47 |  #9
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spookyspike wrote in post #16198077 (external link)
No I only have the one body...all my other lenses are ok though.

What do you mainly shoot? And do you use your 85 1.8 wide open often?


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Aug 11, 2013 05:56 |  #10

40 mm is great, but it can't shoot at 1.4 :)


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Aug 11, 2013 11:05 |  #11

I do use my 85 wide open a lot to be honest. I mostly shoot people, i wanted this for a bit of a walk around. Is there anything else worth considering? I did have a sigma 35 but that went back as even with the dock I couldn't get constant focus or distance focus out of it. As someone mentioned the 40mm is great, I've had one before but i do like to shoot with narrow DOF so its a shame it only stops down to 2.8.


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Aug 11, 2013 12:33 |  #12

spookyspike wrote in post #16198545 (external link)
I do use my 85 wide open a lot to be honest. I mostly shoot people, i wanted this for a bit of a walk around. Is there anything else worth considering? I did have a sigma 35 but that went back as even with the dock I couldn't get constant focus of distance focus out of it. As someone mentioned the 40mm is great, I've had one before but i do like to shoot with narrow DOF so its a shame it only stops down to 2.8.

Try another s35, it's worth getting it right, trust me.


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Aug 11, 2013 13:06 |  #13

drzenitram wrote in post #16198742 (external link)
Try another s35, it's worth getting it right, trust me.

You are prob correct to be honest however I've since spent the additional money needed to buy it again :rolleyes: so probably needs to stay within the £350ish region. I'm going to give one more sigma 50 a go and hope for 3rd time lucky!


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