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Aug 05, 2013 22:41 |  #646

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I'm currently looking to get a (using an adaptor of course) Nikkor AI-S 24mm 2.8 for some HDSLR-ing for a potential job offer. If the job offer falls through, the the likelihood of someone having an interested in buying this lens of me (in regards to our current market). Would it be any good for regular "UWA" shots even with mf?

The Oly 24/2.8 is better....


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Aug 05, 2013 23:01 |  #647

kitacanon wrote in post #16184502 (external link)
The Oly 24/2.8 is better....

I had read that, but isn't the Oly usually much more expensive? I ask because I too am interested in a 24mm prime... my dad has a Nikkor 24/2.8 and I only took a few shots with it, but it looked pretty good.

Another shot from the Vivitar S1 at 70mm wide open. Very pleased with this lens :)

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Aug 06, 2013 00:18 |  #648

Got my adapter in today!

Here is the first shot with my Nikkor AI'd 50mm f/1.4 compared to the Nifty-Fifty. Shot RAW, no editing, converted to JPG in CS6, 100% crop.

Colors look very close to me, maybe just a touch more saturation on the Nikkor? I think the bokeh on the Nikkor is just a touch smoother. All in all, not as much difference as I had been hoping for. Less difference between the 1.4 and the 1.8 than I was expecting.

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Aug 06, 2013 00:44 |  #649

^I think you need more practice with MF to be sure. From the last set at f/2 you can see in the Nikon shot if you look at the left-most flower that you've missed the focus point that you hit with the nifty fifty. I'm surprised that the 50/1.8 has bokeh that smooth at f/2, mine had noticeable pentagons in the background when you stopped it down, that's the main reason I sold it.


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Aug 06, 2013 01:01 |  #650

Definitely need to practice, it has only been about 30 years since I regularly focused an SLR ;)

I was expecting more difference between them. Maybe I just have a "good" nifty-fifty, or this isn't the right MF lens for me. I will play some more this week and then decide on whether to keep it or not. Unless something changes, don't see enough difference between the 1.4 and my nifty-fifty 1.8 to justify the $50 paid for it.

The adapter I got has a focus confirmation chip that helps, but when the flower is moving in the breeze, hard to keep up!

Whatever happens with this one, I am starting to look for a 135mm f/2.8. Have a line on a couple of good looking Vivitars in the $30 price range, will see what happens there.


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Aug 06, 2013 01:07 |  #651

^I don't have much experience with Vivitar 135's, but my Sears 135 is pretty good for the $20 or so you can pick them up for, very sharp stopped down to f/4 and beyond and still reasonably sharp wide open (you can see some sample pics in the MF sample thread). There's at least one other user in that thread who has one and he too is very happy with it (more-so than I am in fact, for me it CA's just a little bit too much wide open).

Also, test out the Nikkor against your nifty-fifty stopped down to 2.8 or more with a background that has highlights, the difference in backgrounds might be more obvious then ;)


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Aug 06, 2013 02:58 |  #652

LoneRider wrote in post #16184698 (external link)
... I think the bokeh on the Nikkor is just a touch smoother. All in all, not as much difference as I had been hoping for. Less difference between the 1.4 and the 1.8 than I was expecting.
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The 1.4 has bigger blur circles than the f/1.8 (~more bokeh quantity).
Both lenses have about the same bokeh quality in this pictures. Both are a bit nervous. This could be used for images with a bit of Trioplan style :-)


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Aug 06, 2013 04:09 |  #653

LoneRider wrote in post #16184770 (external link)
Whatever happens with this one, I am starting to look for a 135mm f/2.8. Have a line on a couple of good looking Vivitars in the $30 price range, will see what happens there.

I don't think there is a bad 135mm manual lens. I have a Helios 135, which I bought for £20 and it is one of my most used lenses.

This was taken with that lens. Not a great subject, but it does show its potential. The brickwork was about 3 feet behind the timber fence and shows as decent bokeh. It was taken with my old 450D and not the 7D.

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Aug 06, 2013 10:21 as a reply to  @ EverydayGetaway's post |  #654

[QUOTE=EverydayGetaway​][\QUOTE]

Is this the Vivitar you are using? If so, time to call my dad and take it off his hands.

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Aug 06, 2013 11:07 |  #655

[QUOTE=mike929;1618555​3][QUOTE=EverydayGetaw​ay][\QUOTE]

Is this the Vivitar you are using? If so, time to call my dad and take it off his hands.

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Aug 06, 2013 11:25 |  #656

[QUOTE=EverydayGetaway​;16185663]

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It certainly looks like it ;)

nice, thanks..i'll add it to my small but growing collection.


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Aug 08, 2013 01:00 |  #657

Zeiss 50 1.7 planar or Zeiss 50 1.8 pancolar? which should I get?

From google, it seems the planar is sharper, while the pancolar has a more unique bokeh, have I got that right?


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Aug 08, 2013 01:06 |  #658

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Zeiss 50 1.7 planar or Zeiss 50 1.8 pancolar? which should I get?

From google, it seems the planar is sharper, while the pancolar has a more unique bokeh, have I got that right?

I would search both on Flickr and other places and check out the sample shots and decide for yourself ;) I've looked into both and I'm sure either would be a great lens. Check out the MF adapted lens sample archive here on the forum too, I know I've seen shots taken with both somewhere in there... it's a big thread though, so be careful you don't get tempted to buy other gem lenses :lol:


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Aug 08, 2013 01:20 |  #659

[QUOTE=mike929;1618571​1]

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nice, thanks..i'll add it to my small but growing collection.

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Aug 08, 2013 02:10 |  #660

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #16190347 (external link)
I would search both on Flickr and other places and check out the sample shots and decide for yourself ;) I've looked into both and I'm sure either would be a great lens. Check out the MF adapted lens sample archive here on the forum too, I know I've seen shots taken with both somewhere in there... it's a big thread though, so be careful you don't get tempted to buy other gem lenses :lol:

Haha, I know what you mean.
I did check flickr, and problem is, I like both of them, haha, but I can only afford one, so I was hoping others would decide for me :D


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