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Aug 09, 2013 16:40 |  #1

After doing some research, I've come to the conclusion that it is somewhat difficult to find lens models, opinions, and picture samples of vintage MF lenses in the 300mm-400mm focal length. The Super Takumar 300 f4 seems ok but I want to know if there is something better and still doesn't hurt the wallet that much. I'm looking to have a longer focal length so I can use it for wildlife and possibly even lunar shots and I don't want to donate sperm and plasma for years to recover from it. So yea, are there any vintage lens suggestions you guys would recommend in the 300-400mm focal length?


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Aug 09, 2013 18:50 |  #2

Are you in the UK? If so then this might fit the bill:
http://www.ebay.co.uk …enses&hash=item​5659bee2a1 (external link)
More advice and adapter suggestions here: http://www.pebbleplace​.com …al/Leica_db_Ada​pters.html (external link)

Hope this gives you some food for thought.


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Aug 09, 2013 19:47 |  #3

I know it's a bit shorter than what you're looking for, but I have a Piesker 250mm f4.5 for sale. It takes nice photos and is very light weight for a telephoto. Best of all, it's cheap!
http://www.ebay.com …ain_0&hash=item​20d6373e77 (external link)


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Aug 09, 2013 20:12 |  #4

have you considered a teleconverter? a 1.4 will give you 280mm f5.6, and still retain AF...not too different from 300mm...and a 2X would give you 400mm f8, but you'd have to manual focus that on your 70-200mm...or get 260mmf4 with the 135L


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Aug 09, 2013 20:34 |  #5

No, I'm not in the UK (USA! USA! USA!). I didn't really consider a tele-converter because the f stop drop. I don't HAVE to have a manual focus lens but it seems like a MF 300mm telephoto is going to be like 1/3 the price of one with AF so I'm trying to go that route.

The slowest f stop I want to go is 5.6.. so it looks like the Super Takumar 300 f4 is probably the one to get. Thanks for the suggestions so far guys, keep em coming! :D


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Aug 10, 2013 01:17 |  #6

I've heard good things about the Tamron Adaptall mount lenses, a lot of different options were made too.


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Aug 10, 2013 08:45 |  #7

i'll have to look into those...

i saw Canon made a FD 300mm F4 and looking at the sample pics, it looks like that one is the one to go with. it goes for about $180 on ebay. i've read mixed things about FD lenses be able to be used on an EOS body. shouldn't a FD-to-EOS adapter remedy any problems when it comes to mounting and shooting?


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Aug 10, 2013 09:07 |  #8

BFox549 wrote in post #16196224 (external link)
i'll have to look into those...

i saw Canon made a FD 300mm F4 and looking at the sample pics, it looks like that one is the one to go with. it goes for about $180 on ebay. i've read mixed things about FD lenses be able to be used on an EOS body. shouldn't a FD-to-EOS adapter remedy any problems when it comes to mounting and shooting?

FD-EOS adapters have glass in them, so you're going to see image quality loss. The only way to avoid that is doing a slightly difficult edmika conversion.


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Aug 10, 2013 10:12 |  #9

A great place to find tons of information:

http://forum.mflenses.​com/ (external link)


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Aug 10, 2013 10:34 |  #10

Used 400 5.6? That seems one of the cheapest lens out there for not too much commitment, with excellent quality. Can also sell it back for little or no loss. I have heard some users picking one up and using it for a couple years and selling it back for basically the same price. That is pretty hard to beat and better than renting! Can also focus in manual too... ;)


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Aug 10, 2013 10:52 |  #11

have you tried manual focusing wildlife yet? i can't imagine it's going to be the easiest of things...a lot of what you're looking at is just 300mm, which isn't really long enough, but you could easily sell your 70-200f4 lens, and pick up something that goes to 300mm with AF...something like the older sigma 100-300f4


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Aug 10, 2013 12:29 |  #12

i have not tried to yet. maybe i should just slap the 70-200 on the 40D and keep it at 200 (320 cropped) and see how it goes. i don't really want to sell the 70-200 because i use it to shoot sports (mainly paintball). if i was going to sell it, it would be to upgrade to a 70-200 f4L IS.


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Aug 10, 2013 14:46 |  #13

Even with a 400mm I find myself still having to sneak up to get close enough to most subjects, so keep that in mind. I can't imagine manual focus for birding or any wildlife that moves around much, especially BIF. For larger wildlife and large birds a 400 is OK for me. I never break out my 70 - 200 for wildlife, plus it is pretty heavy to carry around as an extra lens in tow. I did put a 1.4 TC on it once, was fair.

For sports though the 70 - 200 is awesome! Don't sell...


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Aug 11, 2013 15:19 |  #14

BFox549 wrote in post #16196224 (external link)
i've read mixed things about FD lenses be able to be used on an EOS body. shouldn't a FD-to-EOS adapter remedy any problems when it comes to mounting and shooting?

FD-mount Canon lenses need optics to enable them to focus onto the sensor of an EOS body. That gives roughly 1.25x increase in focal length with an equivalent loss of speed (nearly a stop). The main problem is that the adapter optics are certain to be the weak link in the chain, robbing you of all the qualities you're looking for in the original lens.

Decent telephotos not slower than f/5.6 are not going to be very cheap, even the older ones.


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Aug 12, 2013 04:10 |  #15

Madweasel wrote in post #16199047 (external link)
FD-mount Canon lenses need optics to enable them to focus onto the sensor of an EOS body. That gives roughly 1.25x increase in focal length with an equivalent loss of speed (nearly a stop)...

One could take an Ed Mika adapter for the longer telephoto lenses, or do some DIY lens mount conversion (external link) / adapter building.
The new FD 300/2.8, 400/2.8 and 500/4.5 are very good - but expensive. I don´t know much about the nFD 400mm/4.5 - but I suppose it had a good quality too. And a fast IF focussing, not helicoid slower focussing like Zeiss 300/4. With the later wildlife photography is very bad. But with the fast internal focussing systems of the long FD lenses it is possible to do such.


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