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Aug 16, 2013 04:27 |  #16

Grizz, that's a nice edit.




  
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Aug 16, 2013 05:03 |  #17

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Aug 16, 2013 05:09 |  #18

I'm not a portrait shooter and others will correct me (and/or rip me a new one) if I'm wrong, but if I'm not mistaken, the theory to get more three-dimensional portraits is to bring the light source closer (inverse square law and all that) - in this case, bring her closer to the white board and take another shot. LR can help, I'm sure, but if at all possible give that a shot maybe.


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Aug 16, 2013 06:15 |  #19

Nitpick away guys. The more you share the more I try and absorb. I'm going to keep playing with it and see where I can take. It in itself is a good learning curve for pp for me.

If shes interested I think I'll have another go at it when I'm back from leave. It's a quick job as we have to do it during our lunch break. I'll make sure I have everything with me next time.




  
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Aug 16, 2013 07:03 |  #20

Had a bit of time so I made a second go at an edit. Unfortunately the file here is showing banding that isn't visible on the full-sized 16-bit file in Photoshop.

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Aug 16, 2013 07:45 as a reply to  @ PixelMagic's post |  #21

here is one edit. it has a watermark of a raw converter. the raw converter that i use
is not updated for new camera models so does not recognise raw files of new models.


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Aug 16, 2013 09:29 as a reply to  @ nittaya's post |  #22

Maybe it's just my monitor but the image seems a little underexposed. If you'll pardon the poor selection, here's my attempt. I left her eyes alone except for lightning the pupils slightly. The catchlight could be from a window so I didn't mess with them. I also tried to warm the tones a little. I also left the shadows under her eyes alone so as not to deminish her smiling eyes.


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Aug 16, 2013 16:46 |  #23

Those are great guys. Love the backgrounds, really makes a dramatic difference. Maybe I need to look at getting PS.
I think I increased the vibrance which has caused the redness. Over cooked it.

Navydoc, The background drop in is done with PS(or similar), the other edits did you just use LR or did you do those in PS as well?

Trying to get a handle on what's possible with just Lightroom.




  
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Aug 16, 2013 17:08 |  #24

Background swaps cannot be done in Lightroom because (a) you need Layer functionality, and (b) you need the ability to select pixels precisely. Lightroom is a parametric editor so when editing raw files it works at the pre-pixel level; it is only when the image is rasterized by exporting or transferring to Photoshop that pixels are created.

This is an essential difference between the two programs: Lightroom is a parametric editor with limited selection functionality. Photoshop can only edit rendered/rasterized files like PSD, JPEG, TIFF, etc. and can select individual pixels as evidenced by the flyway hairs selected in the background swap I did.


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Aug 16, 2013 19:24 |  #25

Though I know that I can't do pixel editing, I wasn't aware of exactly why. Another nugget of info that I appreciate learning.

Hopefully my ISP will have us back online later so I can stop posting via my phone.




  
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Aug 16, 2013 19:38 |  #26

swoffa wrote in post #16214153 (external link)
Those are great guys. Love the backgrounds, really makes a dramatic difference. Maybe I need to look at getting PS.

Navydoc, The background drop in is done with PS(or similar), the other edits did you just use LR or did you do those in PS as well?

If you don't want to spend the $$$ for PS, try Photoshop Elements 11. It's very inexpensive yet retains a large portion of the full PS, including layers, which is incredibly powerful.


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Aug 16, 2013 19:53 |  #27

@PixelMagic: great work at retouching. You guys are really super at Photoshop.


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Aug 16, 2013 20:34 |  #28

swoffa wrote in post #16214153 (external link)
Those are great guys. Love the backgrounds, really makes a dramatic difference. Maybe I need to look at getting PS.
I think I increased the vibrance which has caused the redness. Over cooked it.

Navydoc, The background drop in is done with PS(or similar), the other edits did you just use LR or did you do those in PS as well?

Trying to get a handle on what's possible with just Lightroom.

swoffa wrote in post #16214518 (external link)
Though I know that I can't do pixel editing, I wasn't aware of exactly why. Another nugget of info that I appreciate learning.

Hopefully my ISP will have us back online later so I can stop posting via my phone.

If I didn't have the "full" version of Photoshop (I have CS5) I'd look at a more "affordable" editor. Elements is good, also the Corel Paint Shop Pro has come a long ways over the years, and there is more out there. In fact I saw an interesting article today on Photoshop alternatives:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/n​ews/business-23714699 (external link)


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Aug 16, 2013 21:12 |  #29

swoffa wrote in post #16214153 (external link)
...Navydoc, The background drop in is done with PS(or similar), the other edits did you just use LR or did you do those in PS as well?...

Yes, the background was added using PS on its own layer.


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Aug 16, 2013 21:48 |  #30

vaflower wrote in post #16214583 (external link)
@PixelMagic: great work at retouching. You guys are really super at Photoshop.

@vaflower, thanks. It a very nice image so all I did was a bit of tweaking.


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