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Aug 15, 2013 15:11 as a reply to  @ post 16210919 |  #16

^ This is really interesting for me to read. I've been supplying TIFF files for off-set printing as long as I've been shooting digitally. Never occurred to me that things might be changing.:o


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Aug 15, 2013 16:43 |  #17

Thanks for the input guys,
i had a chat with him over the phone, and he said he would rather not say what they were for!
just that he needed pdf files no bigger than 4mb each...
but hey, if he's happy i'm happy i guess


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Aug 15, 2013 17:54 |  #18
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^wow so many secrets from your client...lol. Just deliver what he needs :) shenanigans


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Aug 15, 2013 17:58 |  #19
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as a frequent user of printers

i always submit high rez 300+ dpi .tiffs(photos, posters, 11x17's etc - CMYK)

unless i'm doing a brochure of some sort, i'll do it in .pdf if necessary, otherwise its .illustartor files

this is just how i've been printing for the past 15+ years. NEVER AN ISSUE.


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Aug 19, 2013 15:24 |  #20

I have done some freelance for a printing company and yes, PDF is the format they use all the time, everything that they receive in other format are converted to PDF. So maybe thats the main reason he's asking PDF.


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Aug 20, 2013 09:35 |  #21

saturnin wrote in post #16211406 (external link)
as a frequent user of printers

i always submit high rez 300+ dpi .tiffs(photos, posters, 11x17's etc - CMYK)

unless i'm doing a brochure of some sort, i'll do it in .pdf if necessary, otherwise its .illustartor files

this is just how i've been printing for the past 15+ years. NEVER AN ISSUE.

You do know that the printer is converting them right? Wouldn't you want the control of the conversion on your end? At least to make sure nothing drops out or any color shifts with profiles, etc?


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Aug 20, 2013 09:50 |  #22

I've supplied an image for a magazine cover this month and asked them what they wanted. I was told a JPEG was perfect.

But here you seem to be saying I could have given them the high res TIFF I had to hand?


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Aug 20, 2013 09:58 |  #23

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I've supplied an image for a magazine cover this month and asked them what they wanted. I was told a JPEG was perfect.

But here you seem to be saying I could have given them the high res TIFF I had to hand?

Wouldn't have mattered, The designer at the magazine would still convert it. A high res jpg would still be good quality for a cover due to printing resolutions and line screen.


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Dec 16, 2013 20:47 |  #24

Mactosh wrote in post #16208348 (external link)
So today i did some head shots for a guy who then requested all the images be given to him as a PDF file (external link) because he couldn't send Jpeg or PNG image files (external link).
Is this a normal request??
in a year or so of doing this no one has even asked me for PDF files before?

I am often asked to convert PDF to image but it is the first time to see convert image to PDF. A little strange.




  
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Dec 24, 2013 08:51 |  #25

For whatever's worth, most PDF encoders will actually zip compress a jpg and embed it within a PDF wrapper. If you look in photoshop at the save-as PDF dialogs, you'll see there are some
Advanced options for handling images.

Strange request but whatever...


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Dec 25, 2013 07:09 |  #26

Always try not to give .jpgs for print just due a reason, that if I give .tiff, all colors are good and if they mess up - THEY mess up. More flexibility, I guess.

As for OP question - heh, that dude doesn't know what he needs, but doesn't want to admit it. Sometimes I troll them for some time till they're ready to admit and talk straight. But I am a bad person.


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Dec 25, 2013 07:30 |  #27

Foodguy wrote in post #16210970 (external link)
^ This is really interesting for me to read. I've been supplying TIFF files for off-set printing as long as I've been shooting digitally. Never occurred to me that things might be changing.:o

The color on PDFs is not consistent. Most really good printers still want TIFFs. Some printers will except PDFs but just because they take them it doesn't mean it's the best method. I still send printers TIFFs.




  
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Dec 25, 2013 16:24 |  #28

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The color on PDFs is not consistent. Most really good printers still want TIFFs. Some printers will except PDFs but just because they take them it doesn't mean it's the best method. I still send printers TIFFs.

15 years in publishing I can say this is not true. I deal with two of the larger printers internationally in Chennai and in the states and they both require PDF workflows. This is large volume printing. Doesn't mean they can't take them but there is an added expense processing them into their workflow systems.

Maybe small old school shops still want tiffs but that has nothing to do with color consistency in PDFs. Most likely due to manual manipulation rather than an automated workflow. If there is a color inconsistency, that is normally due to set up issues on the user end. If a printer can't accept or properly print a PDF, then it is time to find a new printer.


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Dec 25, 2013 16:50 |  #29

It's not printer it's the file itself.




  
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