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Aug 09, 2013 13:30 |  #1

Hello!

I'm going to do a portrait shoot in some woods with my friend. The mood we are trying to achieve is dark and mysterious. A black dress would fit right in.

What to pay attention to when lightninig full body shots of a girl wearing a black dress?

I plan to light the scene with a 430EX II in a stand fired through umbrella.


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Aug 09, 2013 14:31 |  #2

Keep the light about 90 degrees or so off camera axis to add some depth to the photo. If you really want to get a "mysterious" shot, rent a fog machine and spray some fog in the shot. Then place your light behind the model, maybe 10' behind her, but aimed at her fully backlighting the shot.


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Aug 09, 2013 14:37 |  #3

Try some shots with the umbrella down low pointed upward. Mysterious and spooky.




  
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Aug 09, 2013 14:42 |  #4

A black dress in the woods is going to require some method of separating the dress from a dark background. Tough with a single light. Try getting the sun to her back if you can to provide some rim light to keep the black dress from blending into the dark woods. Then use the flash to light her from the front. The angle you move it off the camera axis will depend on how dramatic you want the lighting to be.




  
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Aug 09, 2013 14:45 |  #5

Cool ideas, guys!

I'm worried that the dress might not stand out from the dark background the forest provides.


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Aug 13, 2013 04:22 as a reply to  @ D 550D's post |  #6

Any chance you could spring for a YN 560II about £43?
If you can the can run on Ettl2 and will trigger the YN in S1 mode.
Misses the first preflash.

I am just worried with one 430II you will struggle. Woodland scenes are quite problematic.
Seperating the black dress will be another challenge.

Also I agree with poster who said try and get the sun behind her. And that is where your problem lies. Its not a regular studio where you make the set.
Chances are that perfect background just is not the best place for the light!

We call it sods law. Hence the need for at least 2 lights.
I am investing in a 3rd one to give me location flexibility.
Main, fill and back, or if moody top left, mid right and low left.
There is no end as one could even want a 4th for background or back highlight.

Hence my move to buy these YN s, 2x 600 EX RTs was a stretch for me so the others had to go budget. Ist trial was enncouraging - other than no ettl2 on the YNs meant some metering - ended up at about 50% for the yn s..

Do you have a dog?
Best I found is to scout your location earlier. Same time of day.
Lugging your kit, the model and her clothes from place to place demands a pretty cooperative model.
I am very lucky that I knoe a bunch of models I did portfolios for (free of charge - all love location portraits, and it helps they are all smart! One is a Barrister at Law! So they see the cH
Challenges!

Might also be worth taking some anti mosquito spray as sunset gives some good shots but also seems to bring them out.


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Aug 21, 2013 07:54 |  #7

Submariner: I also have a Nissin Di866 II so that's a total of two flashes plus ETTL receivers, so I have the means to light the thing properly.

But it doesn't really matter anymore, because the model and I decided for a whole new look and are going to do the shoot somwhere in town - urban locations.


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