pauly916 wrote in post #16237597
Don't be sad unfortunately people do this and I wouldn't bother putting a massive watermark on your shots either it only ruins them. I just have a small one in the corner so they have no defence by saying they couldn't find the owner.
Have a search for an online image usage calculator (there must be a US one the uk ones will be different) and send them the bill. I think if you report to Facebook they will remove the image.
vinmunoz wrote in post #16237608
That sucks Lisa. You should do what Pauly suggested.
my fave from yesterday. yes it's true snake. looks like a toy. 50mm f2.8
I finally calmed down and will not be putting a bigger watermark on everything although it looked pretty cool when I came up with it! I really really realllyyy appreciate all the advice given though bad and good.
@Vinz I probably would have freaked out if I've seen that in person. >>
babel_fish wrote in post #16237736
+1
Also a boycott/flame of their page doesn't hurt either

I can't do that, I'm not a flamer by nature and I don't want to ruin their business in anyway but I did send them a message on it.
Str0ntium wrote in post #16238047
Yeah, we're all human. Ignore my advice

Too many beers, last night.

I would be pissed, too. Just so you know. But, I don't really have to worry about people stealing my stuff since it sucks anyway haha.
I forgives you and I think my comment was a bit rude myself since I was infuriated last night. I don't think your stuff sucks; your photography is much more different than ours and it's nice to see a change of pace from the norm.
MakisM1 wrote in post #16238245
Please don't get this the wrong way, but if you want your images copyrighted, say so in your watermark. Maybe this way they will think twice infringing you copyright.
It's in my watermark actually there's a C with 2013 in it, but I think it's just either too tiny to see now or just ignored.
ScullenCrossBones wrote in post #16238282
Lisa, register you image with copyright office. Legal action against them would be pretty easy, and since they removed your watermark, they would be liable for an additional damages.
I did and they were quite nice about removing the photo. They told me it will be gone by tonight. I'll be watching, if nothing happens I'm moving to Plan B!
rpadula wrote in post #16238288
Well he should not have taken it at all. Would it have been OK when you met him if he lifted your camera without your permission to take a picture for his business facebook page? Of course not!
Actually, it's better for you that the watermark was removed. It shows the theft was done on purpose.
I haven't read the entire FB TOS, but I don't think it's true you lose all rights by posting there. I believe you grant them an unlimited license to use the photos (otherwise, they couldn't show them on FB pages), but you retain the copyright.
No, there's plenty you can do, and I hope you do it. Please ask in the Business of Photography thread. This issue has been covered often. Your fellow POTN members will help you in there.
I think you might be younger and probably intimidated by this (I know I would have been in my 20's), especially since it was done by someone you met in person. A little legal help is a great confidence booster.

Besides, jewelers bank some serious coin. He can most certainly afford to pay you a fair price for a business web use photograph.
Watch this video lecture if you have time:
https://photography-on-the.net …hp?p=16188807&postcount=6 I can honestly say I was definitely intimidated by it all; most people respect others work and don't try to take it but in this day and age there are those who are uneducated about it. I really reallyy hate the fact that when people meet me once, they assume we are BEST FRIENDS and can do everything a best friend would do like thinking they get photography done for free and whatnot.
BurnUnit wrote in post #16238573
I'm not on FB, partly for just this reason, so I've never read their TOS. I understand that by posting photos there you give up certain usage rights but go back and read the fine print. Non-commercial and Creative Commons usage is one thing, but I doubt that you've given up copyright for obvious commercial usage. Unless FB is somehow profiting from it.
Keep your wits about you and don't get too emotional. Instead of contacting the FB page owner, contact FB first. You can bet they have a well-paid legal department that they'd love to keep busy handling these cases, and I suspect that you don't. They may also "red flag" the page and keep a closer watch for other violations. This will improve the odds of making the page owner think twice about using/stealing someone elses work for his commercial gain.
I went back and re-read the TOS for FB and yeah the owner still retains copyright for legal reasons. I think it's Twitter and Instagram I was getting it mixed up with, I know some large social media site is taking rights from the owners somewhere. I do have to apologize about last nights episode; I was frustrated about a lot of other things and this was just the icing that blew it all off.
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Sorry about the hallbaloo I made in the thread !! Thanks for all of ya'lls patience and help; too bad we all can't sit together so I could apologize in person and have dinner on me or something. xD