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Aug 27, 2013 20:27 |  #1

I am supposed to do a wedding tomorrow inside of a church per request there will be no strobes or flashes allowed because of distractions. How will i set up my camera so that my photos are nicely exposed. What should i start out my setting on my camera? I use a canon 50d i own a light meter and a calibrated gray target. what should i do?
HELP SOMEBODY. I own 2 lenses an 85mm 1.8 and a 55-250mm


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Aug 27, 2013 20:57 |  #2

I know this isn't what you want to hear but you are very poorly equipped to do weddings. No backup camera, no on-camera flash, no fast zooms, no wide-angle coverage. I hope there's somebody else besides you taking photos at this wedding.

As for the settings, you need high ISO and wide aperture to register enough ambient light inside a dark church. 50D's usable ISO is around ISO1600. Just pray that the church has a good amount of natural light.


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Aug 27, 2013 21:01 |  #3

i also have a 7d as a back up like i mentioned no flash allowed


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Aug 27, 2013 21:05 as a reply to  @ cleyvosier's post |  #4

How is that the better camera is backup for the older one? I would use the 7D as main as you can crank up the ISO a little higher. You need a wide-angle prime like 35L or something like the 17-55/2.8. Your kit zoom lens won't cut it unfortunately and your 85/1.8 is too long on your crop body to be of much use for many shots.


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Aug 27, 2013 21:18 |  #5

was using the older one before i use new one im backwards i know


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Aug 27, 2013 21:19 |  #6

Hi Cleyvosier - without reiterating what amirg said I too would also use the 7D as your main body.

Your best chance for adequate exposures will be to use the 85 f/1.8 - a fine, sharp, fast lens I own and enjoy - along with ISO 1600 to start. That will give you a little bit of noise, but it will allow you to use higher shutter speeds to freeze action and bit more DOF when you need it.

Hopefully the lighting will be somewhat uniform in the church. If it is not, identify the main, different lighting zones. Since you own a light meter, that will be an advantage. Get INCIDENT meter readings in these spots which will tell you how much light is falling ON the subjects. A reflected reading will be anomalous in these circumstances since it will be reading white dresses and black tuxedos. Once you get a solid reading, set your camera on MANUAL with these. MANUAL will lock it in so it won't fluctuate. As long as you are in a uniformly illuminated area, it is to your advantage to have the metering locked in. You can always check by chimping the LCD and looking at the histogram, although the later may not be terribly useful in dark areas.


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Aug 27, 2013 21:21 |  #7

One other thing - if you will use the 55-250 that is a pretty slow lens so I would mount that on the second body and put that on a tripod. This way the lower light levels will not be such a major issue, relative to the "action" shots you'll be taking with the 85 f/1.8 Aim it at the front and use a cable release.

Have you done a wedding before and are they paying you for this?


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Aug 27, 2013 23:04 |  #8

High iso (3200 or so), P mode, shoot RAW.


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Aug 27, 2013 23:13 |  #9

I would be renting some gear if I were you .....


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Aug 28, 2013 10:35 |  #10

If you shot at high ISO with your 50D you may get some banding depending on exposure. I used to with my 50D but mostly when I used 6400. I if you do there is NR software with anti banding options out there.


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Aug 28, 2013 12:06 as a reply to  @ digital paradise's post |  #11

Try to find someone to help you out. My Opinion is there is no such thing as a flashless wedding. There will be plenty of challenges with lighting through out the day and Knowing how to overcome those Challenges with supplemental lighting is what separates the newbs from the pros. You will screw a lot of things up w/o a flash and the knowledge of how to use it properly...... and you might get your friends P/O'D at you,,Not worth it. Get some help is my suggestion.


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Aug 28, 2013 12:12 |  #12

tim wrote in post #16246082 (external link)
High iso (3200 or so), P mode, shoot RAW.

this is the best answer


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Aug 28, 2013 14:19 |  #13

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I would be renting some gear if I were you .....

No truer words were spoken. RENT RENT RENT.... You do not have enough equipment for a wedding.


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Aug 28, 2013 15:00 |  #14

Do you do weddings regularly or was this just a favour, etc?


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Aug 28, 2013 17:00 |  #15

umphotography wrote in post #16247472 (external link)
Try to find someone to help you out. My Opinion is there is no such thing as a flashless wedding. There will be plenty of challenges with lighting through out the day and Knowing how to overcome those Challenges with supplemental lighting is what separates the newbs from the pros. You will screw a lot of things up w/o a flash and the knowledge of how to use it properly...... and you might get your friends P/O'D at you,,Not worth it. Get some help is my suggestion.

Are you suggesting he use a flash at a wedding where it has been stated that flash is not allowed? When I shoot dance comps and recitals it is strickly forebiddin to use a flash. Doing so would not only get me kicked out on my @ss, it could jeopordize the safety of the dancers on stage. ..... Switch to the 7d, up the ISO, rent a few fast lenses and go for it.




  
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