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Aug 28, 2013 16:50 |  #1

I find it confusing that half the users of this forum refer to cameras with a "Rebel" indication T something and the other half have Canon xD, xxD or xxxD cameras. Like in one of the recent topics where someone would like to know the difference between a 50D and a T3. I have a 50D but no idea what a T3 might be ....

Is there a quick comparison table somewhere so that I can lookup what camera "the other half" is talking about?

BTW: why Canon is still sticking to that that confusing two tier marketing concept is beyond me.


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Aug 28, 2013 17:04 |  #2

You will find your answer here:

http://www.eos-magazine.com …erything%20EOS%​202012.pdf (external link)


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Aug 28, 2013 17:14 |  #3

You should count yourself lucky that no one has brought KISS into the discussion yet! :D


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Aug 28, 2013 17:19 |  #4

The 10D, 20D, 30D, 40D, 50D, 60D, and now 70D are just that.

In the US, there are Rebels, Rebel T3, Rebel T3i, Rebel T4i, etc.... THere are a whole bunch of Rebels. The Rebel names used in the US are not used by the rest of the world. The rest of the world may use numeric designations, like a T5i is a 700D (I think), and a T4i is a 650D, etc....

So the only time that you need to be confused is with XXXD and Rebel. If you see 5D, 6D, 7D, 50D, 60D, 70D, there is nothing to be confused about. Those are just what they are.


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Aug 28, 2013 18:57 |  #5

vk2gwk wrote in post #16248281 (external link)
Is there a quick comparison table somewhere so that I can lookup what camera "the other half" is talking about?


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EOS 500D EOS Digital Rebel T1i EOS KISS Digital X3
EOS 550D EOS Digital Rebel T2i EOS KISS Digital X4
EOS 600D EOS Digital Rebel T3i EOS KISS Digital X5
EOS 1000D EOS Digital Rebel XS EOS KISS Digital F
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Aug 28, 2013 20:16 |  #6

-MountainDog- wrote in post #16248311 (external link)
You will find your answer here:

http://www.eos-magazine.com …erything%20EOS%​202012.pdf (external link)

Thanks - very informative. Just what I was looking for.


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Aug 28, 2013 20:56 |  #7

vk2gwk wrote in post #16248281 (external link)
BTW: why Canon is still sticking to that that confusing two tier marketing concept is beyond me.

Some would argue that there is a four tier system:
1. XXXD Rebel series
2. XXD series
3. XD series
4. 1D series


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Aug 28, 2013 22:38 |  #8

DwainRowe wrote in post #16248892 (external link)
Some would argue that there is a four tier system:
1. XXXD Rebel series
2. XXD series
3. XD series
4. 1D series

Or at the very least, 3

XX0D
X0D
XD

(I can see how the 1D series could be separate from the 5, 6, 7D series, or it could be combined in with them)


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Aug 29, 2013 00:46 |  #9

You should count yourself lucky that no one has brought KISS into the discussion yet!

I would love to tell people that my camera is a KISS camera...:D. Where I'm at, Japan release cameras are cheaper than the regular xD, X0D and XXXD cameras.




  
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Aug 29, 2013 08:05 |  #10

smasraum wrote in post #16249144 (external link)
Or at the very least, 3

XX0D
X0D
XD

(I can see how the 1D series could be separate from the 5, 6, 7D series, or it could be combined in with them)

Canon is all over the place, it is hard to outline their tier system in a way that makes sense. Even in the same model number space they have different sensor formats.

In the rebel consumer space, they have XX0D and XX00D.
In the prosumer space, they have X0D for APS-C (1 through 7 currently), and XD for APS-C and FF (5, 6, and 7 currently)
In the pro space, they have the 1D/Ds/Dx series for APS-H (in the past) and FF


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Aug 29, 2013 08:56 |  #11

TeamSpeed wrote in post #16249867 (external link)
Canon is all over the place, it is hard to outline their tier system in a way that makes sense. Even in the same model number space they have different sensor formats.

In the rebel consumer space, they have XX0D and X000D.
In the prosumer space, they have X0D for APS-C (1 through 7 currently), and XD for APS-C and FF (5, 6, and 7 currently)
In the pro space, they have the 1D/Ds/Dx series for APS-H (in the past) and FF

XX00D you meant.

Anyway, the way I see it:

Rebel, KISS, & 3/4 digits before "D" means consumer space
X0D means advanced amateur / enthusiast space
XD (where "X" is not 1) means professional or serious enthusiast space
1D means "full professional build"


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Aug 29, 2013 10:37 |  #12

Corrected, thanks!

And I don't really care for the labels for the model lines because 1) that is subjective and 2) it really means nothing in the end. There are amateurs buying 1Ds and pros buying SL1s.


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Aug 29, 2013 11:09 |  #13

TeamSpeed wrote in post #16250274 (external link)
Corrected, thanks!

And I don't really care for the labels for the model lines because 1) that is subjective and 2) it really means nothing in the end. There are amateurs buying 1Ds and pros buying SL1s.

It really just describes the target market. Actual end use is whatever people do.


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Aug 29, 2013 12:44 |  #14

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You should count yourself lucky that no one has brought KISS into the discussion yet! :D

May I be of assistance? ;)

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Aug 29, 2013 17:01 |  #15

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That looks just like my Rebel XT/350D!


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