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f-stop Gatekeepers: how tight are they?

 
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Aug 28, 2013 22:07 |  #1

I've been very disappointed with the built-in Gatekeepers on f-stop bags and not wholly pleased with the Think Tank Gatekeepers I bought to use with them.

• The built-in gatekeeper straps on both the Satori and the Loka will not stay tightened when holding a five-pound tripod; they will loosen very quickly and let the tripod jostle around.

• The Thank Tank gatekeepers hold very well, but they have a tendency to come unhooked at the ends when there is no tension on them. I keep finding them unhooked and in danger of falling off.

So I'm considering getting some of the f-stop add-on gatekeepers, but it looks as though they have no lock feature like the Think Tank straps do. Without the lock, I fear that the gatekeepers will be no better than the ones f-stop sews into the bags.

Can anyone vouch for the f-stop gatekeepers from good experience with gear that is equivalent to a five-pound tripod? I want to be able to strap down heavy gear and have it stay put for the duration of a long hike.


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Aug 28, 2013 22:36 |  #2

The built-in straps on the F-Stop bags are actually compression straps, not gatekeepers. That said, I use mine all the time for carrying my 3.5lbs tripod and they have never loosened, although I'm 2lbs short of your setup.


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Aug 28, 2013 22:43 |  #3

The design of the compression straps as well as the gate keepers is such that they will not loosen only when they are under tension. Is your tripod being strapped onto a relatively empty bag? If so, in my experience, the straps will loosen easily. They do fairly well if the bag is full.

This is based on my experience of strapping a Gitzo 1-series travel tripod to the side of a Loka bag using the compression straps. I believe gatekeepers work exactly the same way mechanically.

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Aug 29, 2013 00:41 |  #4

On the topic of gatekeepers. When you order from fstop does it come in a pack of 2?


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Aug 29, 2013 00:53 |  #5

ClassicJ wrote in post #16249338 (external link)
On the topic of gatekeepers. When you order from fstop does it come in a pack of 2?

Yes. $12 for a set of 2 short


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Aug 29, 2013 01:12 |  #6

Thanks pdrober2. Contemplating picking up a kenti for my trip to hawaii. This will complete the rest of my order. :)


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Aug 29, 2013 05:10 |  #7

I've had no problem with the fstop gatekeepers (they do have a lock if I understand what you mean correctly). Mine hasn't loosened strap wise nor come unlocked.




  
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Aug 29, 2013 06:52 |  #8
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gatekeepers aren't built in, so you aren't having issues with gatekeepers.


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Aug 29, 2013 09:47 |  #9

rent wrote in post #16249152 (external link)
The design of the compression straps as well as the gate keepers is such that they will not loosen only when they are under tension. Is your tripod being strapped onto a relatively empty bag? If so, in my experience, the straps will loosen easily. They do fairly well if the bag is full.

This is based on my experience of strapping a Gitzo 1-series travel tripod to the side of a Loka bag using the compression straps. I believe gatekeepers work exactly the same way mechanically.

-alex

I don't think we've ever gone out with the bags relatively empty. They're always somewhere between mostly full and completely stuffed, with all kinds of things strapped to the outside. This is us on a day when we left a lot of items in a refuge hut and then hiked out from there:

IMAGE: http://www.phrasikleia.com/phrasikleia/GlacierHike1.jpg

And here is the Satori stuffed to the gills (they really need to make a bag that holds about 10 liters more):

IMAGE: http://www.phrasikleia.com/phrasikleia/LoadedSatori.jpg

Anyway, the built-in straps on both the Satori and the Loka are not sufficiently tight to hold either tripod for long (both tripods are about the same size and weight).

Mackeral wrote in post #16249741 (external link)
gatekeepers aren't built in, so you aren't having issues with gatekeepers.

Right, OK, whatever they call the built-in straps, they do say on their website that they "can be used to compress the bag or secure tripods, ski poles, or similar items." I can see them working pretty well for light items like ski poles and travel tripods, but they don't work for bulkier, 5-pound items.

xeodragon wrote in post #16249600 (external link)
I've had no problem with the fstop gatekeepers (they do have a lock if I understand what you mean correctly). Mine hasn't loosened strap wise nor come unlocked.

Here is what I mean by a lock (this is one of the Think Tank straps that we're using):

IMAGE: http://www.phrasikleia.com/phrasikleia/ThinkTankLockingStrap.jpg

In addition to the actual buckle, there is also a flip-up/down lock. It looks to me as though the fstop Gatekeepers don't have this feature. Is that correct?

By the way, the part of the Think Tank gatekeeper that is coming open is the metal hinge on either side, where you connect it to the loop on a bag. That will pop open on its own unless it's under tension. Do the fstop models have that problem as well?

Has anyone been carrying bulkier, heavier items on the outside of their bag, secured with gatekeepers?

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Aug 29, 2013 19:06 |  #10

Phrasikleia wrote in post #16250151 (external link)
It looks to me as though the fstop Gatekeepers don't have this feature. Is that correct?

By the way, the part of the Think Tank gatekeeper that is coming open is the metal hinge on either side, where you connect it to the loop on a bag. That will pop open on its own unless it's under tension. Do the fstop models have that problem as well?

The F Stop gatekeepers don't have a lock like that, no. And they do not pop open on their own if not under tension.


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Aug 29, 2013 20:09 |  #11

Sirrith wrote in post #16251661 (external link)
The F Stop gatekeepers don't have a lock like that, no. And they do not pop open on their own if not under tension.

Thanks, Sirrith, that answers part of the question. Now I just need to find out how well they can stay tightened around heavier items, given that they do not have a lock.

Anyone? I'm thinking maybe I'll just get more of the Think Tank straps and hope that none of them fall off when they're not holding anything.


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Aug 30, 2013 03:46 |  #12

Sirrith wrote in post #16251661 (external link)
The F Stop gatekeepers don't have a lock like that, no. And they do not pop open on their own if not under tension.

I can confirm what Sirrith said was correct

I've used it to hold a Feisol 3441T for a day with no issues, if that helps.




  
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