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Aug 28, 2013 21:45 |  #1996

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Aug 28, 2013 22:06 |  #1997

That video helped a lot. Thank you.


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Aug 29, 2013 03:11 |  #1998

i guess the finish product is worth it, but thats why i will never be a "professional" i want a mix of both quality and quantity, not 90/10 of one or the other.


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Aug 29, 2013 07:40 |  #1999

It really just depends on where you're showing it. Remember that the pro's need to make it as clean, and large a possible for the client, but if all you're doing is showing the shot in web-res, it doesn't have to be as perfect.


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Aug 29, 2013 15:27 as a reply to  @ post 16248249 |  #2000

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Stunning, how many images did you work with to create this one image?

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Aug 29, 2013 16:36 |  #2001

Thank you!

Here are the layers:

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I think 13 images. I forgot to do the interior so the two interior layers here are from another shoot about a week later.

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Aug 29, 2013 18:11 |  #2002

Doc Fluty wrote in post #16248810 (external link)
Fantastic work.... I would love to sit behind someone on a 4 or 6 hour editing job.

I have some shots where I might end up with 30-45 layers, bringing in skies and removing reflections... I'm not sure I ever spent more than 45 minutes on it.

I would love to sit behind one of you guys to see what Im doing wrong. Is the sky 1 hour, car 3 hours, trees 1 hour and road 1 hour? ....im just trying to break it all down in my head.

Im genuinely curious.


Its not that your doing anything wrong, its just some of us see small things and areas that can be made better and if your me then you can get really anal and will do it over and over until you get it right or try photos with different exposures or different processing.

On the BMW photo a good 2 hours was spent just masking the leaves of the trees so I could then go in and add an exposed photo of the sky and it would properly show through the leaves like its supposed to. Then a good chunk of time was spent removing the mill stacks from the sky, which didnt turn out perfect, was pretty hard for me to get the clouds to look right. Then different layers for the car and foreground and burning the foreground a bit. I could have easily spent another hour or two really perfecting it, but the client it was for isnt super picky and it gets downsized and cropped to about 380px high and 600px wide.


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Aug 29, 2013 20:55 |  #2003

AWD FTW! wrote in post #16251525 (external link)
Its not that your doing anything wrong, its just some of us see small things and areas that can be made better and if your me then you can get really anal and will do it over and over until you get it right or try photos with different exposures or different processing.

On the BMW photo a good 2 hours was spent just masking the leaves of the trees so I could then go in and add an exposed photo of the sky and it would properly show through the leaves like its supposed to. Then a good chunk of time was spent removing the mill stacks from the sky, which didnt turn out perfect, was pretty hard for me to get the clouds to look right. Then different layers for the car and foreground and burning the foreground a bit. I could have easily spent another hour or two really perfecting it, but the client it was for isnt super picky and it gets downsized and cropped to about 380px high and 600px wide.

You can do that all in less than 10 mins with the newer versions of PS. With that almost all white sky, you can let PS do all the work in masking based on a color and then fine tuning it with sliders. Then for the stacks, again easy to do with content aware fill or the patch tool.


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Aug 29, 2013 23:55 |  #2004

Tony_Stark wrote in post #16251929 (external link)
You can do that all in less than 10 mins with the newer versions of PS. With that almost all white sky, you can let PS do all the work in masking based on a color and then fine tuning it with sliders. Then for the stacks, again easy to do with content aware fill or the patch tool.

Lol see you learn something new everyday. You just saved my hand from developing arthritis early.I used content aware fill for the stacks, it will only take you so far till you have to do some by hand. I didnt like the way it was processing the cloud structure so I did it by hand. Usually it does a great job though. Im using CS6


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Aug 30, 2013 11:40 |  #2005

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Lol see you learn something new everyday. You just saved my hand from developing arthritis early.I used content aware fill for the stacks, it will only take you so far till you have to do some by hand. I didnt like the way it was processing the cloud structure so I did it by hand. Usually it does a great job though. Im using CS6

I actually don't like using content aware, as it makes too many wild-ass guesses about what I want it to do. Instead I use the healing brush on "replace" to start with and drop in a rough replacement then go back with the brush set to "normal" to blend and tweak my changes.


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Aug 30, 2013 13:40 |  #2006

Tony_Stark wrote in post #16251929 (external link)
You can do that all in less than 10 mins with the newer versions of PS. With that almost all white sky, you can let PS do all the work in masking based on a color and then fine tuning it with sliders. Then for the stacks, again easy to do with content aware fill or the patch tool.

Oh if this were true. PS is smart, but not that smart...yet. And while it's true that you can greatly reduce your time in PS by using the latest be-all-end-all tool (re: content aware fill), they don't always work as advertised, and don't work in every situation. I always try several different ways to do anything, pick the best one, and refine from there. It's the "refine from there" part that takes the time.


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Aug 30, 2013 13:42 |  #2007

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Oh if this were true. PS is smart, but not that smart...yet. And while it's true that you can greatly reduce your time in PS by using the latest be-all-end-all tool (re: content aware fill), they don't always work as advertised, and don't work in every situation. I always try several different ways to do anything, pick the best one, and refine from there. It's the "refine from there" part that takes the time.

You're certainly right. I wasn't making a blanket statement for all editing, just for the particular example of the BMW image.


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Aug 31, 2013 14:24 |  #2008

Don't have the settings, but I'm always looking for input as I'm a noobie. One thing I'd like to learn is how to get rid of reflections in cars and how to patch things up better. Don't have the settings I used, but from here on out I'll keep them for this thread:

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Aug 31, 2013 15:48 |  #2009

Did you use a CPL on your lens? that's one of the easiest ways to get rid of reflections.



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Aug 31, 2013 17:41 |  #2010

I have one, but not for that lens. I made sure to buy one for my 70-200 that'll be here this week for future shoots and other things, but I heard there's a way to do it in lightroom or photoshop?



  
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