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Considering to upgrade towards 6D, tips towards lenses?

 
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Aug 31, 2013 15:44 |  #1

I currently have;
-Canon 550d
-Canon 10-22mm
-Samyang 14mm 2.8
-Sigma 20mm 1.8
-Canon 35mm 2.0
-Samyang 85mm 1.4

I manly shot landscape pictures and more artistic type of pictures. I once had 50mm L 1.2 and 1dsm2. I loved that combo. But too heavy. I had to sell due to buying a house. I also bought a 5d2 some months ago, but was scammed so never got it. So have been licking my wounds and more or less decided to get a FF again to take advantage of my lenses. I have one used 6d on hand, with extra battery, 500 on the shutter. If I sell the 550 + 10-22,maybe sell a flash ans some other stuff. I'd be almost there. But little afraid I will miss the 10-22mm. Very versatile lens.

Advice, changes I should do to the lens lineup? Cost is an issue. And 5d2 have gone up in price again. Just slightly less for a well used one then what I need to pay for that 6D. I need liveview for the Samyoung lenses for fokus.




  
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Aug 31, 2013 16:05 |  #2

bbss wrote in post #16256729 (external link)
I currently have;
-Canon 550d
-Canon 10-22mm
-Samyang 14mm 2.8
-Sigma 20mm 1.8
-Canon 35mm 2.0
-Samyang 85mm 1.4

I manly shot landscape pictures and more artistic type of pictures. I once had 50mm L 1.2 and 1dsm2. I loved that combo. But too heavy. I had to sell due to buying a house. I also bought a 5d2 some months ago, but was scammed so never got it. So have been licking my wounds and more or less decided to get a FF again to take advantage of my lenses. I have one used 6d on hand, with extra battery, 500 on the shutter. If I sell the 550 + 10-22,maybe sell a flash ans some other stuff. I'd be almost there. But little afraid I will miss the 10-22mm. Very versatile lens.

Advice, changes I should do to the lens lineup? Cost is an issue. And 5d2 have gone up in price again. Just slightly less for a well used one then what I need to pay for that 6D. I need liveview for the Samyoung lenses for fokus.

I use just a 16-35 L II and a 70-200 F4 L IS with my 6D. I shoot nothing but landscapes.

I would keep only the 14mm 2.8 prime and no other primes. A 16-35 or a 17-40 would pair very well with it on full frame.

If you are not into doing landscapes with anything over 85mm, then a 24-105 lens kit (large savings on the lens!) with 6D would cover all of your needs paired with a 16-35 or 17-40, and 14mm. I think given the 14mm, 17-40 would be more useful and much cheaper.

I very rarely use my 70-200 for long shot telephoto landscapes, and more often it is just used for stitching many photos into a high resolution wide photograph, or stitching at 70mm to get the field of view lost from not having a lens between 35mm and 70mm.

Weight is a large concern for me. I'm as skinny as a twig. :lol:

If you like smooth bokeh artistic shots for portraits, etc, then keeping the 85mm prime might be a good idea. For landscapes, it is not needed.


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Sep 01, 2013 16:31 |  #3

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I use just a 16-35 L II and a 70-200 F4 L IS with my 6D. I shoot nothing but landscapes.

I would keep only the 14mm 2.8 prime and no other primes. A 16-35 or a 17-40 would pair very well with it on full frame.

If you are not into doing landscapes with anything over 85mm, then a 24-105 lens kit (large savings on the lens!) with 6D would cover all of your needs paired with a 16-35 or 17-40, and 14mm. I think given the 14mm, 17-40 would be more useful and much cheaper.

I very rarely use my 70-200 for long shot telephoto landscapes, and more often it is just used for stitching many photos into a high resolution wide photograph, or stitching at 70mm to get the field of view lost from not having a lens between 35mm and 70mm.

Weight is a large concern for me. I'm as skinny as a twig. :lol:

If you like smooth bokeh artistic shots for portraits, etc, then keeping the 85mm prime might be a good idea. For landscapes, it is not needed.

Thank you. I am not a fan of zooms. Also the zooms are almost always rather big.

I have been on a roll today. Bought a lot of new equipment. A 1d mark IV, like new, with low shutter, 3 batteries. 1230$. I suspect that was cheap. He also had a 5d mark 2, worn, used much. For the same price. As is normal price for these, so skipped it. I did buy the 6d with 500 on the shutter with ekstra battery(will get it in 3 days) for 1470, newprice is 2300$. I also bought a one year old 50mm L 1.2 for 1145 as I needed a 50, and I like this 50 especially well. I almost bought the whole lot. He had 24mm 1.4 II, 85mm 1,2 II, 70-200 IS 2.8 I. And much other stuff. Switching to Sony and only do video. But that was enough for me.

I suspect I shall keep the 6D, 14mm, 35mm, 50mm and 85mm. And sell the rest. Thoughts? Keep the 20mm?




  
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Sep 01, 2013 18:44 as a reply to  @ bbss's post |  #4

I am a huge fan of the 16-35LII but a 24-105L is what I shoot with 95% of the time. You can't go wrong with the 50 1.2L. If I had to shoot with just one prime lens it would be that one.

It sounds like you already have a good handle on lenses.


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Sep 02, 2013 01:03 |  #5

Buy the 6D as a kit with the 24-105. You will get the lens for almost half off and can immediately sell it for a nice profit if you don't want it.


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Sep 02, 2013 01:14 |  #6

captainkanji wrote in post #16260392 (external link)
Buy the 6D as a kit with the 24-105. You will get the lens for almost half off and can immediately sell it for a nice profit if you don't want it.

You're a little late ;)


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Sep 02, 2013 07:33 as a reply to  @ 1Tanker's post |  #7

I live far away from the US. So there will be tax in addition. And warranty will be a pain if something is wrong. But what about that 1d4 I bought, is it still worth something? The guy I bought it from said the 1dx killed the price on it. So I bought it for less then the 1d3 normally are sold for around here, and those are old and used. I suspect I made a good deal on it, and it will more or less pay for the 6D. There is also the option of keeping the 1d4. The fast speed is outstanding for HDR shots and 10-22 will fit, and works super, with a slight modification(done it when I had 1d3). In addition I read that it has better color then 6d/5D3, and a more quality sensor. And just 0.8 worse in ISO. And it's a 1D, so it will at least give the impression that I am a pro photographer.




  
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Sep 02, 2013 08:04 |  #8

You'll be able to go wider with the 6D and 14mm. I'd shoot with the 6D for a bit to see if it meets your needs. In Australia the 1D4 is still selling used for more than a new 5D3 so it sounds like you got a fantastic deal there with that body


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Sep 02, 2013 09:27 as a reply to  @ smythie's post |  #9

It's about the same isn't? about 11mm on the 10-22. 11x1,3=14,3mm. Pluss it takes all types of filters. Autofocus. Little distortion. Plus, it's a zoom, 22x1,3=28,6mm on the long end. In many cases the 1d4, 10-22 and 50mm L would be all I need to carry. Maybe buy a cheap 70-300mm for the odd long shots. 50L+1d4 is also weather sealed, so usable in really bad weather.

But I suspect, since the 1d4 is as big. It will mostly be left at home, as became the fate of the 1d3, there it is useless. But damn, it is fun shooting with a 1 series camera. It feels like a real camera and not a toy.

I will calm down, wait for the 6D and attempt to make a rational decision.

Edit: I also found the shutter count(www.astroplace.net (external link)) on 1d4, 22320, So there should be 277680 left.




  
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Sep 02, 2013 10:42 |  #10

I didn't realise you could get down to 11mm on the aps-h bodies (thought it was still a bit longer). At that length, I'd keep the zoom over the Samyang (my 14 was good but not stellar). And I'd have the same enthusiasm about owning a 1D you mentioned earlier.

The only decent advice I could give you is the same I mentioned earlier - shoot with both for a little while to decide which you want to keep more


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Sep 02, 2013 11:41 |  #11

Excellent advice. Will do. I tested a few things today. With filters, I will not be able to use 11mm on 10-22. Corners on samyoung seems much sharper, even the center slightly sharper. But will have to wait on 6D to test properly. As the 10-22 will be pushed to the edge, while 14mm only around the center.

I also noticed that the 50L 1.2 used quite often shutter speeds above 1/4000 in daylight today. Not sure if that will be an issue. I think it will. Will certainly have to use ND filter in daylight.

There is stuff like magic lantern for the 6d that will help me focus manually, and provide more features. I wish I could keep both. There is no doubt the 6d suits my lenses better.




  
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