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lots of 6D's for sale why?

 
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Aug 31, 2013 20:54 |  #136

bobbyz wrote in post #16256280 (external link)
Thanks. But I assume center AF point only for these. Didn't have problem with that. Outer points much different story.

Also looked at your other shots. Some good, some off. And that is with 35mm with subject far where DOF is quite large.

First **** was with a 50mm at 1.4... but some people are impossible to please. If you feel you need the 5D3's AF, by all means pick one up, that doesn't make the 6D's AF bad...


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Aug 31, 2013 23:03 |  #137

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #16257287 (external link)
First **** was with a 50mm at 1.4... but some people are impossible to please. If you feel you need the 5D3's AF, by all means pick one up, that doesn't make the 6D's AF bad...

I am just being honest. The keeper rate with 6d is much lower particularly when using outer points. Shot wise, here is 85mm f1.4 in AI servo at f1.4 using one of those outer points. It nailed this shot but that was it. I have 20 more shots which are throw aways. Now I can show this shot and say cameras AF is awesome but won't.

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Sep 01, 2013 00:11 |  #138

^I must've typo'd when writing "shot"... unless they censored that for no reason? :lol:

Again, I get mostly keepers with my 6D... but I also mostly use MF glass (but again, when I do use AF glass I rarely find it misses focus). If the tool doesn't work for you then it doesn't work, again I'm not saying don't get a 5DIII, I'm just saying that for most users the 6D works great ;)


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Sep 01, 2013 03:07 |  #139

I say that shooting moving object is not easy, especially if using short focal length. try using longer length like 135mm, you should get more keepers this way. and try using higher aperture for moving object. imo, 1.4 , 1.8 or 2.0 is appropriate only for still objects. I don't think you can get a good keeper like that even with 5d mark 3




  
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Sep 01, 2013 07:47 |  #140

Im moving from a T3i to 6D over the Mark III.

Why?

-New to Full Frame.
-I would only utilize the AF system about 10% of the time
-Cheaper
-Produces excellent quality photos
-Great in low light
-Smaller (I travel a lot)

I don't see why there would be a lot of them for sale unless people are jumping to the 5d MIII. But for me (pulling the trigger today) the 2k premium would not be worth it.


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Sep 03, 2013 08:59 |  #141

freitz wrote in post #16258141 (external link)
Im moving from a T3i to 6D over the Mark III.

Why?

-New to Full Frame.
-I would only utilize the AF system about 10% of the time
-Cheaper
-Produces excellent quality photos
-Great in low light
-Smaller (I travel a lot)

I don't see why there would be a lot of them for sale unless people are jumping to the 5d MIII. But for me (pulling the trigger today) the 2k premium would not be worth it.

^I moved from and to the same; for the same reasons; though for traveling I liked the idea of wifi+gps also. (Proof shots for the day right on tablet with camera in bag at lunch is convenient).


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Sep 03, 2013 10:59 |  #142

bobbyz wrote in post #16245955 (external link)
Just wondering what do you shoot? Thanks.

just about everything to be honest. Landscapes, street photog. and jungle critters as of late.

Edit** I just added a link to my Tumblr in my sig should you want to take a gander. Not sure if exif is available, but its all T2i or 6D

double edit*** I dont pretend that the AF is a great attribute with the 6D. In fact, its pretty basic, as we all are aware. Yes, I have had many shots that ended up being garbage because I could not keep the center point on the target. Thats the way it goes. I remember shooting all manual everything with my Nikon FM and Rolleiflex TLR not too long ago, so to be honest the AF,measly 4+ frames a second and pretty decent metering are a dream come true. At some point I would love a 5DMk 3, or the next in line, but for now, the 6D works great, produces great images (and some garbage). I am concerned with honing my craft, not GASing it up.


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Sep 03, 2013 11:44 |  #143

I have both.
If I didn't own a 5D3, I would feel the 6D was fantastic, in fact I often prefer it over the 5D3 for shots where I have more time.
But the 5D3 is over all, far supirior as you would expect for twice the price. Not in image quality, but in ability and features, other than wifi.
However, other than faster action and possibly some low light situations, there isn't any thing my 5D3 would have got that my 6D couldn't capture equally.

I use both together with different lenses, I have often thought of selling one to get identical bodies, purely for the convenience of identical layout and control, and if the 5D3 had wifi I would, but they both have unique benefits so the trade off is different capabilities/uniform layout. At this stage I think I'll wait for the 5D4 and trade up both if it has wifi.

If I shot only landscape, still life or even portraiture, the 6D would be my choice.
If I shot only sport, wildlife, active kids or more environmental type portraiture, the 5D3 would be my choice.
But I shoot enough mix so they compliment each other. Different tools for different jobs that over lap to cover most situations.
Comparing the 6D with the 5D3 is like comparing the 5D3 with the 1Dx, in some respects the 5D3 is better than the 1Dx, but in other aspects is not.


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Sep 03, 2013 16:08 |  #144

DamianOz wrote in post #16264304 (external link)
If I shot only landscape, still life or even portraiture, the 6D would be my choice.
If I shot only sport, wildlife, active kids or more environmental type portraiture, the 5D3 would be my choice.

I shoot landscape and sport. I decided to go with the 6D and 7D. 6D is better for landscape with it's slightly cleaner shadows (improved image sensor) and wifi control. 7D is better for sports with it's frame rate and greater reach. I can't justify getting a 5D3 as I feel it would not do as good a job as the 6D and 7D. How can I justify $3000 for a camera with a weaker image sensor than the 6D and a slower frame rate than the 7D? I'm quite happy with how the 7D's AF performs for sports.


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Sep 03, 2013 16:16 |  #145

vaflower wrote in post #16233073 (external link)
6d over 5dmkii everytime. Silent shutter, way better AF, seriously it can focus where your eyes can"t even see, better high iso, better color and sharpness, wifi, better overall ergonomics, both ends MA adjust for room lenses. It is a clear step-up over 5dmkii IMO.

The 5d3 has a silent shutter mode as well you know


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Sep 03, 2013 16:18 |  #146

Mornnb wrote in post #16265078 (external link)
I shoot landscape and sport. I decided to go with the 6D and 7D. 6D is better for landscape with it's slightly cleaner shadows (improved image sensor) and wifi control. 7D is better for sports with it's frame rate and greater reach. I can't justify getting a 5D3 as I feel it would not do as good a job as the 6D and 7D. How can I justify $3000 for a camera with a weaker image sensor than the 6D and a slower frame rate than the 7D? I'm quite happy with how the 7D's AF performs for sports.

DamianOz wrote in post #16264304 (external link)
I have both.
If I didn't own a 5D3, I would feel the 6D was fantastic, in fact I often prefer it over the 5D3 for shots where I have more time.
But the 5D3 is over all, far supirior as you would expect for twice the price. Not in image quality, but in ability and features, other than wifi.
However, other than faster action and possibly some low light situations, there isn't any thing my 5D3 would have got that my 6D couldn't capture equally.

I use both together with different lenses, I have often thought of selling one to get identical bodies, purely for the convenience of identical layout and control, and if the 5D3 had wifi I would, but they both have unique benefits so the trade off is different capabilities/uniform layout. At this stage I think I'll wait for the 5D4 and trade up both if it has wifi.

If I shot only landscape, still life or even portraiture, the 6D would be my choice.
If I shot only sport, wildlife, active kids or more environmental type portraiture, the 5D3 would be my choice.
But I shoot enough mix so they compliment each other. Different tools for different jobs that over lap to cover most situations.
Comparing the 6D with the 5D3 is like comparing the 5D3 with the 1Dx, in some respects the 5D3 is better than the 1Dx, but in other aspects is not.

w0m wrote in post #16263871 (external link)
^I moved from and to the same; for the same reasons; though for traveling I liked the idea of wifi+gps also. (Proof shots for the day right on tablet with camera in bag at lunch is convenient).

All three of you gave great information. I still have not pulled the trigger. I am planning to today.

Thanks!


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Sep 03, 2013 19:08 |  #147

i'm going from a T1i to the 6D...couldn't be happier with my decision! Loving the FF

I couldn't justify spending the extra $1500 for the 5D3


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Sep 03, 2013 21:39 |  #148

m.lam3 wrote in post #16265550 (external link)
i'm going from a T1i to the 6D...couldn't be happier with my decision! Loving the FF

I couldn't justify spending the extra $1500 for the 5D3

Mine should be here by Monday. I am excited to take some pictures. Now just need to sell my other stuff.


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Sep 03, 2013 22:05 as a reply to  @ post 16244768 |  #149

3 of those FS bodies you've seen here came from me :lol:


6D is all i'll ever want from a camera but from time to time, my gear itch comes to mind.

1st 6D I have acquired was traded to another member here for a 5D3.

After using the 5D3, I realized it was overkill and missed my 6D's size and weight.

I traded my 5D3 to another member on this board for his 6D. I thought, yeah, 6D is all I need.

I got tired of really lugging a DSLR and I really just want a smaller camera with full frame capabilities. Leica is out of the equation, so I sold my 6D and bought a Sony RX1 :lol:

A week after I sold my 6D and bought an RX1, I had withdrawals and was missing the quick AF speed of a DSLR, so I bought a brand new 6D and paired it with my RX1 :lol:


I'm giving it 3 more weeks and I'll see which system I really prefer. Right now, I'm leaning towards the RX1 since its so damn small and the IQ is amazing. Once I get used to the AF speed, I will put another 6D back in the market and will keep the RX1 for many years and will wait until the 5DM2 dips below $1000.00 and that will be my second body.




  
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Sep 04, 2013 05:32 |  #150

Rittrato wrote in post #16266030 (external link)
3 of those FS bodies you've seen here came from me :lol:


6D is all i'll ever want from a camera but from time to time, my gear itch comes to mind.

1st 6D I have acquired was traded to another member here for a 5D3.

After using the 5D3, I realized it was overkill and missed my 6D's size and weight.

I traded my 5D3 to another member on this board for his 6D. I thought, yeah, 6D is all I need.

I got tired of really lugging a DSLR and I really just want a smaller camera with full frame capabilities. Leica is out of the equation, so I sold my 6D and bought a Sony RX1 :lol:

Screw the RX1, pick up the 40mm 2.8 pancake lens if you want a compact full frame experience. In fact in terms of weight, a 6D with a 40mm weights about the same as a Leica M set up.
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