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Sep 04, 2013 10:21 |  #736

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first senior shoot ive ever done.. im sure theres lots of places to improve... all these where shot with either my DIY 22in beauty dish or my octo box.. let me know what you think

Really liking the first one! Different angle...at first thought it was a little distracting...but it's growing on me.

Did you do anything with the eyes? Maybe it's her contacts but they appear a little overdone.


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Sep 04, 2013 10:26 |  #737

rglover wrote in post #16267070 (external link)
My first post in the Senior threads......your an intimidating bunch!
Here's a few of my latest senior, Ashley. I have so far to go.......

Comments, suggestions appreciated!

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Looking good Ray. The second one could be a bit warmer...she looks paler in that one as compared to the others. I like the lighting in one...not sure about the partial smile...you nailed the lens flare in the last one...great job.

Just my take on them.


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Sep 04, 2013 10:33 |  #738

Been awhile since I've posted here...here are a few from this season.

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Sep 04, 2013 12:12 |  #739

dwarrenr wrote in post #16267221 (external link)
Really liking the first one! Different angle...at first thought it was a little distracting...but it's growing on me.

Did you do anything with the eyes? Maybe it's her contacts but they appear a little overdone.

just a bit of iris enhancce in LR4 her eyes really pop with almost no enhancements (no contacts here) ... and thxs ya i didnt like that angle at first but really am digging it now..


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Sep 04, 2013 15:23 as a reply to  @ bartc's post |  #740

Our 2012 Spokes model Emily stopped by today. She is working on doing some modeling. So we tried some of these for indoors and we going to go out and do some city stuff in a few weeks

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Sep 04, 2013 16:41 |  #741

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My counts have dropped over the past 3 yrs. Big time this year. Too many are doing it,, Too many are teaching it to newbs, and the ones that are teaching it are lying out their teeth about the market. Its saturated as bad as the baby market. If you can get a school contract you can do well. But the ones that have them pay nice kickbacks to get them....The senior market is not easy and full of people who are weekend warriors. I know many that are no longer in business........sorry to burst the bubble....Just a fact

Yea that is the truth. To many people are doing it under the illusion that one can easily learn it and you make great money doing it. Easy job , great illusion . Would advice the OP to improve his family business and right now
not many of us can say they are making a killing.

Ever wonder if it is so easy to make money why are so many people trying to earn a living by teaching what they know.




  
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Sep 04, 2013 22:54 |  #742

I've followed this thread on and off for awhile and I have to say there are some really great photographers in here. It's also nice to see so many sharing information.

Here are a few from a recent shoot of ours. Kind of a different look for these from a "normal" style shoot I guess. We were lucky enough to get into the gym for a about 45 minutes and we wanted to do something dramatic and fun for them.

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Sep 05, 2013 05:21 |  #743

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Sep 05, 2013 05:50 |  #744

john123 wrote in post #16268243 (external link)
Yea that is the truth. To many people are doing it under the illusion that one can easily learn it and you make great money doing it. Easy job , great illusion . Would advice the OP to improve his family business and right now
not many of us can say they are making a killing.

Ever wonder if it is so easy to make money why are so many people trying to earn a living by teaching what they know.

This, and I have to assume it's happening everywhere, has been going on for several years in our area. Most come and go. After they do their friends they find out there is little demand even when free. One or two might make it every two or three years. But the ones that make are in fact good and invest in them selves as well as equipment. And I will say there are less then a handful that do photography as their sole source of income. In my immediate area there are only three of us that have studios...and as far as seniors go...so far this year only about 3% of my senior clients request studio sessions.

My point here is just to say, don't try to compete with the $100 session that comes with images on a CD with print rights. They are all shooting ambient and producing sub-par images. The individuals that are using these services should not be your targeted audience. Instead find your style that sperates you from the others and stick to it...and if you can make a living from it you're doing better then 60% of the working photographers out there. Senior photography is clearly low hanging fruit. You'll need to have expertise in other fields of photography to have any hope of making a living from photography alone. To say it is easy to make a living at photography is naive. Just my take on it.


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Sep 05, 2013 18:37 |  #745

Right on.
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Sep 06, 2013 09:38 |  #746

Catching up on posting some of last years seniors. This is Aryton, he was the State Champ wrestler for Nevada 2A. We did 2 separate sessions one focusing on his wrestling and one more traditional.
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Sep 06, 2013 10:23 as a reply to  @ thecackster's post |  #747

A couple from last night. Working with both of these girls from one of our local schools. They are Juniors right now but I photographed both of their brothers so we will be using them in a Rep type role for their school. Gonna start early with them because we have some stuff planned over the the next 6-7 months. Should be fun. We had really rappy light last night:mad:

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Sep 08, 2013 08:35 |  #748

Really hoping for some comments on this one. Her mom really wanted it done and likes it but I'm just not feeling it. I guess what really matters is what mom wants to pay for so I'm good with that but what do you guys/gals think?


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Sep 09, 2013 15:08 |  #749

^^^ RJHarris,

on the next one you do like this, put her arms in a different place.

this pose is a standard pose i use because it helps opens the eye a little and puts you the shooter up higher or top down position.

the back hand should be up near her neck or holding necklace or hair.
the front hand should be on her belly area - flat hands on the belly or something to this effect..
http://www.flickr.com/​photos/-phamster-/6612492183/ (external link) <- example of what i am saying

over all i like the image, and as you said mothers are the ones paying so it is all good..


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Sep 09, 2013 15:50 |  #750

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^^^ RJHarris,

on the next one you do like this, put her arms in a different place.

this pose is a standard pose i use because it helps opens the eye a little and puts you the shooter up higher or top down position.

the back hand should be up near her neck or holding necklace or hair.
the front hand should be on her belly area - flat hands on the belly or something to this effect..
http://www.flickr.com/​photos/-phamster-/6612492183/ (external link) <- example of what i am saying

over all i like the image, and as you said mothers are the ones paying so it is all good..

Great advice, Pham. I said the same thing to myself when I saw the image "Nice image. I wish her hands were doing something else."


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