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Sep 06, 2013 05:20 |  #481

how about the 15-85? i think it's one of the best option. more wider and longer reach.


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Sep 06, 2013 06:08 |  #482

elleana wrote in post #16272405 (external link)
Like some of the people in here, am thinking of getting this for my wife (who currently prefers her iPhone to my 6D so am trying to wean her off that), and also as a back-up / portable body. How is the 18-55 compared with the 17-40L? I know there's a slight weight difference, and the price between the body and the kit isn't that all that much, but since I already have the 17-40L I could put the money saved from getting the body only towards the 35mm prime I've been thinking about, if only I can figure out which one to get (L, f2 IS, Sigma) or something else. Going from 40mm to 55mm (64mm to 88mm FF equivalent) seems like a lot though.

The 17-55 f/2.8 that people were drooling about earlier in the thread is also mighty nice, but will probably be somewhat overkill for the wife. Unfortunately primes aren't an option - otherwise the 40mm would be perfect, or I could also dual purpose my planned 35mm - as she likes the option of zooming in and out to compose.

I would recommend you get the kit lens for a whole bunch of reasons. It's a great lens with great IQ, and works really well with the new focusing system in the SL1. Here are a couple of shots with the 18-55 STM kit lens and the 17-40L.

As you can see, the 18-55 kit lens is much more compact than the 17-40, and is more in keeping with the smaller size of the SL1. The 17-40 weighs more than double
the weight of the 18-55 kit lens (500g vs 208g) so the total weight of the camera+lens is significantly increased. Not only that, the 17-40 makes the camera front-heavy and unbalanced. Yeah, you might see a slight improvement in IQ with the 17-40, but is it worth the increased weight, size, and awkward handling? Only you or the wife can answer that. For $100, I believe it's worth getting the kit lens, especially if this will be a backup body or for the wife.


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Sep 06, 2013 08:16 |  #483

or get the 18-135 STM.


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Sep 06, 2013 08:33 |  #484

vinmunoz wrote in post #16272731 (external link)
or get the 18-135 STM.

Yes. And smaller than the 15-85, lighter, according to tests near equal IQ to the 15-85 (maybe even less purple fringing), much greater range if you won't miss the 15-17. But expensive for a variable aperture consumer zoom. Still a very good pick - even at $549.




  
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Sep 06, 2013 10:14 |  #485

tgara wrote in post #16272504 (external link)
I would recommend you get the kit lens for a whole bunch of reasons. It's a great lens with great IQ, and works really well with the new focusing system in the SL1. Here are a couple of shots with the 18-55 STM kit lens and the 17-40L.

As you can see, the 18-55 kit lens is much more compact than the 17-40, and is more in keeping with the smaller size of the SL1. The 17-40 weighs more than double
the weight of the 18-55 kit lens (500g vs 208g) so the total weight of the camera+lens is significantly increased. Not only that, the 17-40 makes the camera front-heavy and unbalanced. Yeah, you might see a slight improvement in IQ with the 17-40, but is it worth the increased weight, size, and awkward handling? Only you or the wife can answer that. For $100, I believe it's worth getting the kit lens, especially if this will be a backup body or for the wife.

Thanks, that's helpful. I guess at only slightly more than the body I might as well get the kit. The 17-40L does look somewhat unwieldy, although you could say that even for a FF body with any telephoto zoom.

vinmunoz wrote in post #16272731 (external link)
or get the 18-135 STM.

Trying not to spend any more than I have to, given that I have no idea whether my wife will warm to the idea. The kit will do for now I guess.


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Sep 06, 2013 10:27 |  #486

if canon make a 20mm pancake, i will buy this SL1 now!


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Sep 06, 2013 10:29 as a reply to  @ elleana's post |  #487

I've been using mine with the 24-105 L and really like the feel of it - not that thats the advice you are after :)

I'm in the UK and got the SL1/100D for a bargin with the kit lens and a few other bits. So if your in the UK its worth shopping around!

I haven't actually used the kit lens yet :o Maybe I should sell it :lol:


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Sep 06, 2013 11:29 |  #488

tat3406 wrote in post #16273128 (external link)
if canon make a 20mm pancake, i will buy this SL1 now!

24mm f2.8 is pretty small.


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Sep 06, 2013 12:09 |  #489

20mm STM with IS.


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Sep 06, 2013 12:26 |  #490

elleana wrote in post #16273095 (external link)
Thanks, that's helpful. I guess at only slightly more than the body I might as well get the kit. The 17-40L does look somewhat unwieldy, although you could say that even for a FF body with any telephoto zoom.

It FEELS even more unwieldy, which doesn't come across in the photos of course. The light body with an extra 300g out in front makes the whole thing feel unnatural and heavy. The kit lens, by contrast, is very light and keeps the whole weight down to a level that is very easy to handle.


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Sep 06, 2013 13:05 |  #491

This is my wife's first DSLR. She would never consider shooting mine because of size and weight but she took to the SL1 with the 15-85 like a duck to water. I sometimes wonder if I should have gotten her a kit lens instead but I've enjoyed my 15-85 so much, I just bought her one too.


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Sep 06, 2013 19:54 |  #492

tkbslc wrote in post #16273332 (external link)
24mm f2.8 is pretty small.

24mm F2.8 IS very good but still expensive now, waiting for the price drop. The length still double the size of the pancake, 22mm vs 55mm for length.
Before 6d I used T3, now I miss the size of weight sometime. 40mm pancake in 6D is excellent, if canon have same equal FL for crop than is perfect.


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Sep 07, 2013 00:35 |  #493

There's an older 24mm f2.8 that isn't that expensive. Only 2" long (pancake is 1", but you gotta take what you can get).

A 20mm pancake is harder to make for an SLR because of the mount depth. It can be done, but I doubt it will be $150 like the 40mm.


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Sep 08, 2013 15:30 |  #494

tat3406 wrote in post #16273128 (external link)
if canon make a 20mm pancake, i will buy this SL1 now!

+1. My many forays into mirrorless has left me with the opinion that ultimately lens size/ weight means more than body size/ weight in terms of "compactness".

40mm is a bit too tight for me for a walkaround lens on a crop sensor.




  
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Sep 08, 2013 15:39 |  #495

this post needs to be in this thread too to showcase SL1 is no toy.

my shots yesterday.

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