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Sep 06, 2013 10:19 |  #1

I know it's been said before.. never never do a wedding if you're not really familiar with what you're doing.

Darnitall I got wore down and accepted anyway.

The background is typical of what you would expect. Bride and groom are early on in life, wedding is on a shoestring budget. Bride is a good friend of my daughter. Daughter informs them that I have this "huge pro camera setup" (lol) Bride and groom look at daughters grad photos I did (2 years ago), I get ambushed by bride and groom, begging to shoot their wedding. I say I'm not qualified. Daughter gives me puppy dog eyes and I crumple like a wet napkin.

Sooooooo.... It will be taking place on the groom's family farm. Good news is that it's a pretty darn small group. bride, groom, 2 bridesmaids, 2 groomsmen. small family attendance as well.

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Well, I dust off the Xsi, think about it, and decide that it can go to the 14 year old that's expressed an interest in photos.


Bought a 60D, own a 85 1.8, 430 exII and the usual tripod and such.

Rented a 17-55 2.8 and the 70-200 2.8L II. will have them a few days before the wedding to get familiar with.

I have been in pretty constant communication with both parties and have things nailed down as best as I can think of. Here's where I need a bit of advice to check if i missed anything:

1. I will not be charging for the photos. Have met with Bride, Groom, and their immediate family and explained my situation. I will do my best, but I am in no way guaranteeing professional results. I will deliver a set of jpegs and the raw files. Printing, specialized photo editing and the rest will have to be done by them or someone else. Have suggested that if they can, at least get one studio shot or hire a pro to do at least one formal pose with bride and groom just to be on safe side. (of course I'll keep a master digital copy for the inevitable "oh crap we screwed up this photo, can you help?"

2. Photos will be all in one location on wedding day. Just not risking multiple locales.

3. worked with them to create a specific list of pictures they want covered, should help me plan the day for my duties as best as I can.


Additional suggestions? what'd I miss???


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Sep 06, 2013 10:21 |  #2

Inside or outside wedding? what time of day?




  
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Sep 06, 2013 10:23 |  #3

outside, with a quonset available in case of foul weather. The farmstead has some neat potential for rugged looking shots. a few century buildings and old implements on site. There's an old barn wall painted a dull off white/gray that might make for a good neutral background.


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Sep 06, 2013 10:30 |  #4

Why aren't you editing the photos? If they're on a budget, they're not going to hire anyone to edit the RAW files for them. No need in giving them the RAW files. If you're going to shoot their wedding, I think you need to see it through and edit the files for them and provide JPEGs only.

You're going to need a contract. Even if the wedding's free, I would draft up a contract and get them to sign it.

You're going to need some sort of back up camera. I'd bring the Xsi along in case something happens to the 60D.

Make sure you discuss the schedule with them. Most brides don't know how much time to set out for the photos.


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Sep 06, 2013 10:31 |  #5

You need to get a handle on where they will be standing and where the shadows will be cast that time of day. My last outdoor wedding the bride and groom insisted on standing on an outdoor patio where the shadow of a deck cut halfway across the wedding party. If they are standing with their back to the sun you are going to need fill flash, if the sun is raking across them you need to be prepared for that as well.




  
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Sep 06, 2013 10:49 |  #6

I really think you should do RAW editing and give them jpeg files that they can print anywhere.


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Sep 06, 2013 11:12 |  #7

peanuthead wrote in post #16273203 (external link)
I really think you should do RAW editing and give them jpeg files that they can print anywhere.

I will be providing jpegs, and a copy of the original raw files.

by no editing, I meant the fancier stuff that you see. I don't know that much about photo editing. I will simply correct any gross errors I find and provide some crops that I think are decent, and bring them up the point where I would be comfortable printing them myself.

The wedding proper will be 4:30 in the afternoon. Since pretty much the whole party will be onsite the night before, I will be trying to get in what I can, early. and if everyone can be organized, there might be time for some nice morning shots. but we have set the official time for everyone to be there at 1PM.
Rough light to be sure, but there are a number of trees to provide shade to mitigate what I can.

for the rest, I can only hope for a day without harsh sunlight. If there is, there's no use in worrying about it. I'll work with what i'm given.


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Sep 06, 2013 11:16 |  #8

HiepBuiPhotography wrote in post #16273149 (external link)
You're going to need a contract. Even if the wedding's free, I would draft up a contract and get them to sign it.

You're going to need some sort of back up camera. I'd bring the Xsi along in case something happens to the 60D.

Make sure you discuss the schedule with them. Most brides don't know how much time to set out for the photos.


I will work up a contract.

I have 2 backup bodies, the Xsi, and a 7d that a friend will be loaning me.

shceduling has been hammered out as much as I can. Backup location in the event of weather has also been taken set. time slots have been given, and I've built in 2x the amount of time I believe I will need for each set of shots.


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Sep 06, 2013 11:17 |  #9

gonzogolf wrote in post #16273151 (external link)
You need to get a handle on where they will be standing and where the shadows will be cast that time of day. My last outdoor wedding the bride and groom insisted on standing on an outdoor patio where the shadow of a deck cut halfway across the wedding party. If they are standing with their back to the sun you are going to need fill flash, if the sun is raking across them you need to be prepared for that as well.


I will be spending time out there in the next few days to get a handle on sun location at various times. I'm also meeting with them on this Saturday to experiment with locations so that I'm not running around guessing next weekend.


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Sep 06, 2013 11:18 |  #10

Thanks for the replies so far! put a few new things in my "to do" list


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Sep 06, 2013 12:33 as a reply to  @ anothernewb's post |  #11

Draw up a contract as said before. Bring multiple memory cards and batteries. Try to rent a flash for the second body/backup as well. 7D+60D and the lens lineup including the rentals looks good. Keep it simple and good luck!


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Sep 06, 2013 14:10 |  #12

As per the thread title, 'Good Luck!'




  
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Sep 06, 2013 23:18 |  #13

Edit at least a little, even a couple of hours on the best shots will give them massively better images.

Contact is important. Get one. Even if it's one line on a piece of paper "I am not a professional photographer, there is no charge, and I make no guarantees about the results or even that there will be any images produced".


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Sep 07, 2013 00:15 |  #14

Contract. Get one. No ifs, buts or maybes.


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Sep 07, 2013 06:26 |  #15

Since you are not being paid I'm happy to see that you made it clear on what you can or cannot provide for them. That is the most important thing when it comes to these situations. Nothing worse than family putting pressure on someone with little or no wedding experience and expecting professional results. If they get it, it is a bonus.

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You may not need them but it gives you some ideas.

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