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Sep 09, 2013 04:58 |  #1

Soooooo... I thought I did my homework pretty well before I purchased my camera, but sadly it appears I missed this important part, the burst mode for raw format. *sigh* So frustrating when you get a great action shot and hit the wall on the burst mode.

At first I thought it was just because of my slow SD cards, then after some more reading around and speaking to others, it appears my t5i is just blah when shooting burst raw.

Sooooo... Guess I will have to start saving up again and buy something new:o


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Sep 09, 2013 05:35 |  #2

Either that or learn to time your shots better.


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Sep 09, 2013 05:46 |  #3

seoul4korea wrote in post #16280904 (external link)
Either that or learn to time your shots better.

That would be great if the shots were predictible, however in the sport of paintball nothing is predictible and sometimes its best to shoot until their move is complete, which is what i was hoping to accomplish.

Oh well, live and learn, and study!


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Sep 09, 2013 05:48 |  #4

What shutter speed are you working at as I have the t4i (basically the same camera with a few less whistles and bells that shouldnt make any difference) and the burst rate on RAW is pretty good unless its writing slow shutter speed images. It fires off 6 shots in around a second and another every half second(ish) after that in decent light.

If its set to RAW+JPG it only manages 2 in quick burst then slows down to one every half second(ish) though.

I am using a Sandisk pro memory card - one of the UHS1 95MB/s ones.


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Sep 09, 2013 05:52 |  #5

First of all there are many settings that can affect the burst. As an example the shutter speed needs to be faster than 1/500 and IS has to be off. I would post an image from a sequence where you are dissatisfied. Make sure you leave the EXIF information intact; that way we can see your exact camera setup and perhaps can offer some suggestions.

What brand/type memory card are you using and where did you buy it?




  
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Sep 09, 2013 05:54 |  #6

Shake N Vac wrote in post #16280920 (external link)
What shutter speed are you working at as I have the t4i (basically the same camera with a few less whistles and bells that shouldnt make any difference) and the burst rate on RAW is pretty good unless its writing slow shutter speed images. It fires off 6 shots in around a second and another every half second(ish) after that in decent light.

If its set to RAW+JPG it only manages 2 in quick burst then slows down to one every half second(ish) though.

I am using a Sandisk pro memory card - one of the UHS1 95MB/s ones.

I'll have to double check when I get home, but I bumped up the shutter speeds for this weekend a bit and messed with the ISO's. I am using the Sandisk Extreme's 30MB/s cards. No matter what value I use, raw or S3, it will only let me do 6 burst, so I am not sure if it's something I'm doing wrong or if my cards are too slow.

I've looked through the manual and according to it, I should get approx 21,560 shots in burst mode for S3, but all I get is 6 on the display.

I am starting to get more comfortable with the camera though. This weekend allowed me to get some good time behind the lens and the chance to really learn some of the more advanced features of my camera. I'm more of a "go do it and figure out what works, then study why it worked" rather than "read countless books then be scared to death to try".


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Sep 09, 2013 05:56 |  #7

I went checking the t5i and note it gives you a six-shot raw burst at 5fps. A second is actually quite a long time in image capture terms - but it depends whether you're looking to capture a sequence in its entirety or just using burst mode in the hope of capturing THE shot.

If it's the latter, you stand a pretty good chance. Anticipation is the key; and practice is the solution. Of course, we all want a !D X with 12fps and 38 raw in the buffer, but few can afford it. So maybe you're not as crippled as you think - just keep practising, and maybe postpone an upgrade until you're really sure your skills really outstrip the body?


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Sep 09, 2013 05:58 |  #8

John from PA wrote in post #16280923 (external link)
First of all there are many settings that can affect the burst. As an example the shutter speed needs to be faster than 1/500 and IS has to be off. I would post an image from a sequence where you are dissatisfied. Make sure you leave the EXIF information intact; that way we can see your exact camera setup and perhaps can offer some suggestions.

What brand/type memory card are you using and where did you buy it?

Oh, I have IS on because I don't have a mono/tri-pod yet (its on my list!). Might be part of my problem. I do know that my shutter speed's were faster than 1/500 however I don't remember exactly where I was.

Appreciate the help and thoughts! You guys are great.

I use all SanDisk Extreme cards 30MB/s both 32 and 64. I know, using such large cards is bad, which is why I picked up the 2 32gb's. The 64gb was a pretty good deal and was hard to pass up. I purchased them with my camera equipment at Best Buy (please dont shoot me! I have a good credit line with them, which is why I bought it)


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Sep 09, 2013 06:03 |  #9

When I was using my 550D, my solution was to shoot in JPEGs when I needed burst mode... not the best solution, but it worked for a couple of years for me.


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Sep 09, 2013 06:03 |  #10

Spraying and praying is not simple on a 7D either. It's all about when to do it.




  
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Sep 09, 2013 06:04 |  #11

xhack wrote in post #16280929 (external link)
I went checking the t5i and note it gives you a six-shot raw burst at 5fps. A second is actually quite a long time in image capture terms - but it depends whether you're looking to capture a sequence in its entirety or just using burst mode in the hope of capturing THE shot.

If it's the latter, you stand a pretty good chance. Anticipation is the key; and practice is the solution. Of course, we all want a !D X with 12fps and 38 raw in the buffer, but few can afford it. So maybe you're not as crippled as you think - just keep practising, and maybe postpone an upgrade until you're really sure your skills really outstrip the body?

The bursts are usually used to capture the sequence, i.e: someone running and diving behind a bunker, someone running up to shoot someone, etc.

I could never afford a camera with a 38 raw buffer! It's probably more than I make in a year! Life of a public servant isn't where the monies at thats for sure!:cry:


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Sep 09, 2013 06:23 |  #12

I use all SanDisk Extreme cards 30MB/s both 32 and 64. I know, using such large cards is bad, which is why I picked up the 2 32gb's. The 64gb was a pretty good deal and was hard to pass up. I purchased them with my camera equipment at Best Buy (please dont shoot me! I have a good credit line with them, which is why I bought it)

Nothing wrong with buying memory cards at Best Buy. I was concerned that you may have purchased them off eBay which is particualrly risky. Lots of counterfeit cards out there but I do think BB has reliable sourcing. As to other business practices, well....

If you burst rate indicator in the viewfinder shows "6" it makes me think you might have RAW enabled. Check that setting.




  
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Sep 09, 2013 06:24 as a reply to  @ paintcheck's post |  #13

I'm a big believer in shooting RAW and have a camera body that will do it well. However, many of the wire service shooters for big magazines will shoot jpeg in order to speed processing and transmission where seconds count. If they can do it adequately for their needs, it gives you a choice to decide when and where you shoot in which format. Jpeg for long bursts or RAW for maximum flexibility in post. You choose.

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Sep 09, 2013 06:25 |  #14

John from PA wrote in post #16280960 (external link)
Nothing wrong with buying memory cards at Best Buy. I was concerned that you may have purchased them off eBay which is particualrly risky. Lots of counterfeit cards out there but I do think BB has reliable sourcing. As to other business practices, well....

If you burst rate indicator in the viewfinder shows "6" it makes me think you might have RAW enabled. Check that setting.

I do. I shoot everything in RAW, but even if i change it and shoot in S3, it will still only let me do 6. :( It's rather weird but its probably me, I've goofed something I'm sure.


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Sep 09, 2013 06:29 |  #15

Learning to anticipate and time the shots is the best approach. I shoot with the 1dx and without good timing, it is still easy to miss the shot.


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