Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EOS Digital Cameras 
Thread started 09 Sep 2013 (Monday) 04:58
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

Disappointed :(

 
John ­ from ­ PA
Cream of the Crop
10,707 posts
Likes: 1300
Joined May 2003
Location: Southeast Pennsylvania
     
Sep 09, 2013 06:35 |  #16

Double check to be certain you are disabling the RAW when testing the S3 mode.

Since this is a paintball scenario, are you shooting with AI Servo focusing enabled? That can kill the burst rate.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
paintcheck
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
154 posts
Joined Jun 2013
Location: Indianapolis
     
Sep 09, 2013 06:38 |  #17

John from PA wrote in post #16280982 (external link)
Double check to be certain you are disabling the RAW when testing the S3 mode.

Since this is a paintball scenario, are you shooting with AI Servo focusing enabled? That can kill the burst rate.

For the most part yes when the game is fast paced, but for the slower games I do manual focus. Haven't got the coordination yet worked out between the zoom/focus together, did practice a bit with it. Some shots.... ya I'll save you the trouble ha!

I will double check that tonight when I get home! Thanks for the tip!


Camera(s): 7D, (wishing for a 5dm3)
Lenses: Tamron 70-200 f2.8 VC / Tamron 75-300 f/4-5.6 / Canon Nifty Fifty / Tamron 10-24 f/3.5-4.5
Cards: 16GB/32Gb SanDisks CF

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
John ­ from ­ PA
Cream of the Crop
10,707 posts
Likes: 1300
Joined May 2003
Location: Southeast Pennsylvania
     
Sep 09, 2013 06:46 |  #18

Just to make sure you understand "burst" you might review the content at http://learn.usa.canon​.com …tanding_burst_r​ates.shtml (external link).




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Raylon
Goldmember
Avatar
1,078 posts
Joined Sep 2010
Location: Plainfield, IL
     
Sep 09, 2013 06:48 |  #19

abhphotography wrote in post #16280984 (external link)
For the most part yes when the game is fast paced, but for the slower games I do manual focus. Haven't got the coordination yet worked out between the zoom/focus together, did practice a bit with it. Some shots.... ya I'll save you the trouble ha!

I will double check that tonight when I get home! Thanks for the tip!

If it's a slow game there is no reason for manual focusing. I wouldn't bother with it. Just learn to use the AF effectively. Also I wouldn't disable AI Servo unless you want a bunch of blurry photos. There should be a setting on the T5i that prioritizes FPS over AF Accuracy if you really need the FPS.

Like others have said, make sure you are disabling RAW while turning on JPEG, not just enabling JPEG and then shoot with both. Also as others have said, I think the bigger issue here is good anticipation. It may seem like complete randomness when things happen, but there is a pattern you will learn and be able to anticipate things.


7D l Canon 70-200 f/4L IS l Canon 85mm f/1.8 l ∑ 17-50 f/2.8 l Canon 50mm f/1.8 II l S95
Full Gear List and Marketplace Feedback
My SmugMug (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
NewCreation
Goldmember
Avatar
3,216 posts
Gallery: 47 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 594
Joined Jan 2013
Location: Michigan
     
Sep 09, 2013 06:48 |  #20

abhphotography wrote in post #16280933 (external link)
Oh, I have IS on because I don't have a mono/tri-pod yet (its on my list!). Might be part of my problem. I do know that my shutter speed's were faster than 1/500 however I don't remember exactly where I was.

Appreciate the help and thoughts! You guys are great.

I use all SanDisk Extreme cards 30MB/s both 32 and 64. I know, using such large cards is bad, which is why I picked up the 2 32gb's. The 64gb was a pretty good deal and was hard to pass up. I purchased them with my camera equipment at Best Buy (please dont shoot me! I have a good credit line with them, which is why I bought it)

If your shutter is that fast, the IS isn't needed.


My name is Brenda ~Saved by grace, walking by faith
http://brendahoffmanph​otography.com (external link)
Facebook (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
John ­ from ­ PA
Cream of the Crop
10,707 posts
Likes: 1300
Joined May 2003
Location: Southeast Pennsylvania
     
Sep 09, 2013 06:50 |  #21

The guy that wrote the link I provided in post #18 (see the number in right corner of individual posts) also has a good video on his website (http://www.eduardoange​l.com …nderstanding-burst-rates/ (external link)).




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
paintcheck
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
154 posts
Joined Jun 2013
Location: Indianapolis
     
Sep 09, 2013 06:58 |  #22

John from PA wrote in post #16280994 (external link)
Just to make sure you understand "burst" you might review the content at http://learn.usa.canon​.com …tanding_burst_r​ates.shtml (external link).

Yup, I knew some of that part (what FPS is), but I didn't know that some of the advanced settings could cause an issue. I will go through my camera again and make sure to turn off some of those advanced features if they are on. I poked around on Google a bit to see if maybe it was something I was doing wrong or what not and didn't come up with any good solid leads.


Camera(s): 7D, (wishing for a 5dm3)
Lenses: Tamron 70-200 f2.8 VC / Tamron 75-300 f/4-5.6 / Canon Nifty Fifty / Tamron 10-24 f/3.5-4.5
Cards: 16GB/32Gb SanDisks CF

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Shake ­ N ­ Vac
Senior Member
520 posts
Likes: 94
Joined Sep 2012
Location: UK
     
Sep 09, 2013 07:04 |  #23

abhphotography wrote in post #16281022 (external link)
Yup, I knew some of that part (what FPS is), but I didn't know that some of the advanced settings could cause an issue. I will go through my camera again and make sure to turn off some of those advanced features if they are on. I poked around on Google a bit to see if maybe it was something I was doing wrong or what not and didn't come up with any good solid leads.

Check whether you have the high ISO noise reduction/long exposure noise reduction turned on as I vaguely remember a thread back when the t4i launched along a similar vein to your thread and this was a contributing factor.


Canon 6D / Canon 70-200 IS ii / Sigma 100 Macro f2.8 / 50mm f1.8
www.sm-wedding-photography.co.uk (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
5Dmaniac
Goldmember
Avatar
1,303 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Oct 2008
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
     
Sep 09, 2013 07:06 |  #24

You won't get much more RAW buffer with these entry level cameras and it sounds that even a 1D series would not do what you want! What you want is video like spraying - so switch to video instead:-)




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
John ­ from ­ PA
Cream of the Crop
10,707 posts
Likes: 1300
Joined May 2003
Location: Southeast Pennsylvania
     
Sep 09, 2013 07:12 |  #25

The T5i should be up to date as far as firmware but you may want to check or perhaps even do a reflash. There was someone here a few months back that was having issues which seemed to be cleared up with a firmware revision.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Frodge
Goldmember
Avatar
3,087 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 147
Joined Nov 2012
     
Sep 09, 2013 07:31 |  #26

I'm not trying to be a critic, but he whole spray and pray idea negates the whole idea of being a photographer and framing the shot that you want. Better off just filming and breaking down the frames into shots.


_______________
“It's kind of fun to do the impossible.” - Walt Disney.
Equipment: Tokina 12-24mm, Canon 40mm 2.8, Tamron 17-50 2.8 XR Di, Canon 18-55mm, Canon 50mm 1.8, Tamron 70-300VC / T3I and 60D

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Lowner
"I'm the original idiot"
Avatar
12,924 posts
Likes: 14
Joined Jul 2007
Location: Salisbury, UK.
     
Sep 09, 2013 07:37 |  #27

Frodge wrote in post #16281071 (external link)
I'm not trying to be a critic, but he whole spray and pray idea negates the whole idea of being a photographer and framing the shot that you want.

Completely agree. Buy a video camera or learn to be a photographer.


Richard

http://rcb4344.zenfoli​o.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Shake ­ N ­ Vac
Senior Member
520 posts
Likes: 94
Joined Sep 2012
Location: UK
     
Sep 09, 2013 07:40 |  #28

Frodge wrote in post #16281071 (external link)
I'm not trying to be a critic, but he whole spray and pray idea negates the whole idea of being a photographer and framing the shot that you want. Better off just filming and breaking down the frames into shots.

I could be wrong but the impression I got is not that burst is being used to spray and pray in the hope of catching one good shot amid the burst of images but is to create a sequence of images showing the whole of the players movement from start to finish.

Possibly to achieve this sort of thing: http://www.lboro.ac.uk …hanics/images/b​rendan.jpg (external link)


Canon 6D / Canon 70-200 IS ii / Sigma 100 Macro f2.8 / 50mm f1.8
www.sm-wedding-photography.co.uk (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Radders
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
5,017 posts
Likes: 19
Joined Oct 2009
Location: UK
     
Sep 09, 2013 07:42 |  #29

Have you got any sample images to share with us?


| 1DII | 7D | 60D | 6D | 100 2.8 | 50mm 1.4 | 11-16 2.8 | 24-105 4 | 70-300 IS USM |
Totallyrad.co.uk (external link) | Airplane-Pictures.net (external link) |Facebook Page (external link) | Russianplanes.net (external link)Gear list

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Frodge
Goldmember
Avatar
3,087 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 147
Joined Nov 2012
     
Sep 09, 2013 07:44 |  #30

Shake N Vac wrote in post #16281093 (external link)
I could be wrong but the impression I got is not that burst is being used to spray and pray in the hope of catching one good shot amid the burst of images but is to create a sequence of images showing the whole of the players movement from start to finish.

Possibly to achieve this sort of thing: http://www.lboro.ac.uk …hanics/images/b​rendan.jpg (external link)

I stand corrected if that is the case.


_______________
“It's kind of fun to do the impossible.” - Walt Disney.
Equipment: Tokina 12-24mm, Canon 40mm 2.8, Tamron 17-50 2.8 XR Di, Canon 18-55mm, Canon 50mm 1.8, Tamron 70-300VC / T3I and 60D

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

8,436 views & 0 likes for this thread
Disappointed :(
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EOS Digital Cameras 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Rower2021
829 guests, 266 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.