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Canon 40mm pancake vs 50mm 1.8

 
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Sep 09, 2013 21:05 |  #1

Currently have the 50mm 1.8, but considering purchasing a 40mm pancake. What is the comparison like between these two lenses. I don't need the lens forone particular reason, just a real cool general use lens to have, it would get most of its use in the pits at motor racing events, and shooting general family things (meals/holidays/cats/d​ogs/beach etc.)

Any help would be great. Especially from those who have had experience with both.

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Sep 09, 2013 21:08 |  #2

It is a long normal lens on a crop (as you have), it is a near perfect normal lens on a fullframe. I like it on both, very high quality. Very small very cheap. Go for it.


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Sep 09, 2013 21:20 |  #3

I feel like the 40 2.8 *might* be a little more likely to be durable long-term, but the extra stop or so of light through the 50 1.8 sure is nice. (1.8->2.8 is more than 1 stop, but according to dxomark, the 50 1.8 doesn't let light through quite as well so it ends up only being .9-1~ stop faster on a crop body, for whatever that's worth). The 50 also gives you a more narrow DOF, which I personally like a lot.

I like them both quite a bit though... I would (and have) had a hard time choosing between the two. I have the 40 2.8 now but I'm always considering going back to the 50 1.8 just because I really do like the reduced noise and better blur. Then again, the size of the 40 makes my t3i seem awful small and easy to carry.

Probably best to let the subject you're shooting/niche you need to fill decide it. Do you feel like you need more reach than the 40 gives? (or, is the 50 not quite wide enough?) The field of view isn't night-and-day different, but the 40 is definitely a bit wider on my t3i.




  
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Sep 09, 2013 23:46 |  #4

Have and use both with the 5Dc. Each has it's own character/uses. Succomb the to inevitable and get it; it's a bargain.




  
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Sep 10, 2013 01:29 |  #5

buy a used lens and try it, if u don't like it sell it. you no loose any peny. For me, 40mm pancake built quality and AF performance better than 50mm f1.8.


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Sep 10, 2013 06:48 |  #6

Dont have the 50 1.8, but i like my 40mm pancake better on my t4i as the 50 1.2 on the t4i...

Just personal preferences i think, i just dont like the FOV i get from a 50 on cropped body..


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Sep 10, 2013 06:58 |  #7

Heycoop Photography wrote in post #16283425 (external link)
Currently have the 50mm 1.8, but considering purchasing a 40mm pancake. What is the comparison like between these two lenses. I don't need the lens forone particular reason, just a real cool general use lens to have, it would get most of its use in the pits at motor racing events, and shooting general family things (meals/holidays/cats/d​ogs/beach etc.)

Any help would be great. Especially from those who have had experience with both.

Thanks!

For a 450D body like yours the 40mm will have a equivalent FOV of 64mm. The 50mm FOV is 80mm. Both lenses are the same weight. The 40mm is half the size of the 50mm. The 40mm is sharp from center to corner. With your 450D, the 40mm makes an excellent travel system as you can almost take your camera inside your pocket.

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Sep 10, 2013 09:37 |  #8

I used to own a 50mm f/1.8, and never liked the lens. It's AF performance was very poor, and mine wasn't sharp until stopped down to to f/2.8 anyway. Add the poor build quality, and it wasn't a lens I wanted the keep. I sold it to a co-worker, who's wife uses it as a budget portrait lens on a crop body.

I bought a refurbished 40mm pancake last spring, though, and love the lens on my full frame camera. It's sharp wide open, and the AF performance is much, much better than the 50mm f/1.8. It's a great focal length for me on FF, and the lens is so small and light weight that I bring it along everywhere.


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Sep 10, 2013 09:49 |  #9

Bought 40 f/2.8 and sold 50 f/1.8. The extra stop was mostly useful for low light shooting for me; and I found it nearly impossible for it to AF in those scenarios anyway on my 600D. After FF transition; I picked up a 50 f/1.2 for the night vision; and the 40 stays in my bag as a lens cap/generic outdoor walkabout (no need for weight or aperture of the 50L while hiking for instance)


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Sep 10, 2013 11:12 |  #10

paparios wrote in post #16284270 (external link)
The 40mm is sharp from center to corner.

Stop the 50mm to f2.8 and the same can be said, and you can still open it up to f1.8 when you want/need.

50mm f1.8 has literally twice the background blur as the 40mm f2.8 when both are used wide open. f1.8 vs f2.8 is the difference between ISO 1600 and ISO 4000 in lower light.


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Sep 10, 2013 12:07 as a reply to  @ w0m's post |  #11

The whole draw of the 40mm pancake to me is the size. I can use it instead of the body cap and my camera suddenly becomes a whole lot lighter and smaller, meaning I can take it more places, get pretty nice images, etc.

For me at least, the 40mm means I take more pictures as I go about my daily life. That = worth it.


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Sep 10, 2013 13:24 |  #12

40mm and 50mm are the same weight.

1" shorter is the difference between being able to take it more places? Really?


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Sep 10, 2013 19:39 |  #13

tkbslc wrote in post #16285306 (external link)
40mm and 50mm are the same weight.

1" shorter is the difference between being able to take it more places? Really?

Because that 1'', I can put in my hiking purse. The most important is the 40mm never get me down like the 50mm(AF hunting). The front element of pancake of 40mm is so small and no need extra take care and the only lens I feel no need a filter for protection.
If you had both of the lens, you will notice the significant different in built quality.


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Sep 10, 2013 20:17 |  #14

I had the 50 and found it was too narrow for a lot of my indoor shooting. I sold it to get a 30, but ended up with a 40 due to price. I'm quite happy with it, but sometimes crave more FOV.

Try to ask yourself what's more important, a wider FOV, or the availability to shoot in lower light. Mentioned above was a 1 stop difference. I will say that it's noticeable.

Personally I think the 40 is too close to the 50. I'd consider spending the money elsewhere.


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Sep 10, 2013 20:20 |  #15

"1" shorter is the difference between being able to take it more places? Really?"

Yes, Really. It makes room in my bag for another lens too.


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