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canon 300 F4 vs 400 F5.6

 
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May 07, 2009 15:41 |  #31

coltranekoh wrote in post #7876375 (external link)
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Is the minimum focus distance of 400mm a problem for you? Do you do close up work with it?

i don't have the 400L but i do have the 100-400L. i really don't do close ups with my long lenses.

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May 07, 2009 15:42 |  #32

Have you thought about the 100-400? You get 400mm, decent AF, not as good as the 400 prime, but as good as the 300 plus TC. You get flexibility as well, and good to great IQ depending on copy.

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I like using long lenses for close up works. I used sigma 50-500 with/without tubes all the time.
So, naturally, I would like to use this prime lens for close up works as well.
Would using extension tubes of 24 or 36mm with 400mm improve the minimum FD much?

There is a post somewhere on hear about the MFD with various tubes on the 400 prime. Let me try to dig it up!

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May 07, 2009 15:43 |  #33

The 100-400mm by comparison focuses pretty damn close....


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May 07, 2009 15:45 |  #34

Nope, definitely not getting 100-400. I might as well keep my sigma 50-500 if I want to get that.

I like using long lens with/without tubes, as it is much easier to blur the bg.

Thanks in2photos, much appreciated.




  
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Sep 12, 2013 09:10 |  #35

quick question, 300 f4 + 1.4x or 400 f5.6 for motorsports? specifically ALMS & F1
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Sep 12, 2013 10:49 |  #36

ExplicitSnow wrote in post #16290626 (external link)
quick question, 300 f4 + 1.4x or 400 f5.6 for motorsports? specifically ALMS & F1
(shooting on a 7D)
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It might have been better to start a new thread instead of bumping an old one.
To answer your question: For motorsports, I think the 300mm is a better fit. You won't always need the extra 100 mm (I can imagine 400mm could even be too long on some circuits) and the extra F stop could come in very handy. On the other hand, I haven't been to any live races yet, so I could be totally wrong. If it's a case of "the longer the better", then 400.


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Sep 12, 2013 11:41 |  #37

ExplicitSnow wrote in post #16290626 (external link)
quick question, 300 f4 + 1.4x or 400 f5.6 for motorsports? specifically ALMS & F1
(shooting on a 7D)
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https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1294177

That thread should help, it's specifically for that lens and TC combination used in motorsports. It's a great combination and I use it all the time. Jefzor is right, the 300mm is generally the better choice (along with the 1.4X), but it does depend on the track and what the access to the track is like.

Since a lot of motorsport photography is done at slower shutter speeds and narrower apertures, the image-quality negatives from the teleconverter are negated for the most part, and the combination 300mm+1.4X produces very sharp results stopped-down. I have a few sample images posted in there.


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Sep 12, 2013 13:16 |  #38

Holy ancient thread resurrection, Batman!

I have no trouble whatsoever with the 300/4 for race cars, galloping horses, flying birds, running dogs, yada, yada.

300/4 IS on 50D...

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300/4 IS + Canon 1.4X II on 50D...

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300/4 IS on 7D...

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300/4 IS on 5D Mark II (with some cropping)...

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Okay, that last one of the hawk was a lucky shot.... missed focus on a lot of others that day. I usually blame the photographer, not the gear... but that was the fault of the camera, and not the lens. The 5DII just doesn't do all that well tracking fast movement.

And, I agree, the unusually close-focusing ability of the 300/4 (closest of any of Canon's lenses longer than 200mm), is a nice bonus....

300/4 IS on 7D (slightly cropped, but no extension tubes used)...

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I don't have the 400/5.6 to compare it with... I only have 24-70/2.8, 70-200/2.8 IS, 70-200/4 IS, 135/2, 300/2.8 IS and 500/4 IS, among others. I don't feel 300/4's AF is lacking in any way.

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Sep 18, 2013 11:37 |  #39

jefzor wrote in post #16290853 (external link)
It might have been better to start a new thread instead of bumping an old one.

didnt realize the last post date

jefzor wrote in post #16290853 (external link)
It might have been better to start a new thread instead of bumping an old one.
To answer your question: For motorsports, I think the 300mm is a better fit. You won't always need the extra 100 mm (I can imagine 400mm could even be too long on some circuits) and the extra F stop could come in very handy. On the other hand, I haven't been to any live races yet, so I could be totally wrong. If it's a case of "the longer the better", then 400.

ill be shooting at COTA...ive been there a few times but only once with my 300f4...it did well during V8 Supercars but that also on the "short" track

this weekend with ALMS/WEC, the entire track will be used so some spots arent the greatest as far as shooting distance to track

either way, i went with a 1.4mkIII extender for my 300...on a 7d, im lookin at 430 with crop factor...so im sure ill use it in some locations & then go down to 300 in others


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