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7D is maybe too specialist for me

 
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Sep 08, 2013 17:33 |  #31

Paulstw wrote in post #16274173 (external link)
I thought I needed it, I thought I had time to sit and wait on wildlife to do its thing, and I certainly don't do sports enough to warrant having a 7D. It's probably a bit too 'pro' for me.

My situation leads my to thinking that my 70-200 2.8L IS II would just so suit being on a FF camera. My future shoots include 3 weddings in the next year, events and parties. I feel the lens is being held back by the 7D's older sensor.

If the 7D is good at one thing, it is versatility. I doubt your clients will find the IQ lacking if you shoot their weddings well.

I'd look at adding a 2.8 zoom in the 17-5x range before looking at a new body if in your situation. If 2.8 is not enough and you're trying to go the available light route then perhaps a Sigma 30/1.4 or similar.


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Sep 08, 2013 18:17 |  #32

A1original wrote in post #16279568 (external link)
Fantastic set, I only wish I could achieve this.

You can, all it takes is practice and more practice.

it also means learning how to use the camera and the gear.


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Sep 08, 2013 19:45 |  #33

+ one on practice, for me I feel a real high percentage of the people could not tell the difference between a fair, good and great photo, when it comes to iq. For me I started with a new T2-I found a used 40d on Craig's list that was gripped and fell in love with the feel of the camera. From there I saved my money and purchased the 5dMIII, the rebel is now in my wife's hands. Buy what u can afford but u must understand the short comings of each body and what your future goals are.


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Sep 09, 2013 01:38 |  #34

A1original wrote in post #16279568 (external link)
Fantastic set, I only wish I could achieve this.

If I told you how I shot these, you'd run out to your nearest bird sanctuary and start doing it with great results.

Shot mostly at f/8 and ISO800 I think. So no fancy things that you couldn't get yourself.

It's the 70-200 that provides the IQ, but I've seen better with lesser lenses.




  
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Sep 09, 2013 07:06 |  #35

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If I told you how I shot these, you'd run out to your nearest bird sanctuary and start doing it with great results.

Shot mostly at f/8 and ISO800 I think. So no fancy things that you couldn't get yourself.

It's the 70-200 that provides the IQ, but I've seen better with lesser lenses.

Ya, I thought it was nothing your doing special but I just got the 7D about a month ago and I am still learning. I really love the camera but it is a bit different than the T4i I have been using. Still trying to learn the different focus modes and drive setting.


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Sep 14, 2013 15:55 as a reply to  @ A1original's post |  #36

Ok I'm confused now lol (easy to do).

A 7D was suggested to me for shooting sports and sports in low light coupled with a good lens of 70-200 f2.8.
I also shoot daytime sports in harsh light and some wildlife in the woods with big time shadows.
In this thread I see everyone talking about how the 7D has bad noise in low light?
I don't want bad noise as no one probably does but am not ready to plop down thousands on a 5dmkIII.
My only experience is with the old 350d and some kit lenses.


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Sep 14, 2013 16:39 |  #37

hotled wrote in post #16296390 (external link)
In this thread I see everyone talking about how the 7D has bad noise in low light?

This is why I sold my 7D and moved to the 5D3


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Sep 14, 2013 17:28 |  #38

hotled wrote in post #16296390 (external link)
Ok I'm confused now lol (easy to do).

A 7D was suggested to me for shooting sports and sports in low light coupled with a good lens of 70-200 f2.8.
I also shoot daytime sports in harsh light and some wildlife in the woods with big time shadows.
In this thread I see everyone talking about how the 7D has bad noise in low light?
I don't want bad noise as no one probably does but am not ready to plop down thousands on a 5dmkIII.
My only experience is with the old 350d and some kit lenses.

It's all relative. The 7D will be much better than your 350D. The 70D is another option for you too...it's got all the bells and whistles and looks like it's got slightly better noise performance than the 7D. It's especially good if you normally shoot jpegs.


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Sep 14, 2013 17:38 |  #39

Don't overthink the noise thing. Keep your ISO at 1600 or less and you won't have AT ALL about noise. Push it to 6400 with Teamspeed's procedures and you'll do fine. The 7D is a fine camera - by all means get a 5D3 if you can afford it as it is the best camera out there today probably, but the 7D is no slouch.


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Sep 14, 2013 20:10 |  #40

I agree don't under estimate the 7D, just go to the 7D picture post and judge for yourself by some of those shots. I have a 7D - 5D MRKIII & IDX all for a reason, they are great cameras. Good luck with your choice.


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Sep 14, 2013 22:34 |  #41

Lol....never have I thought my 7d had bad noise in low light and I shoot 12 dance comps a year. Moving subjects in low light doest get much worse. The 7d is a great camera. you just need to give it a chance and learn it.




  
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Sep 15, 2013 05:27 |  #42

2n10 wrote in post #16275155 (external link)
You should match your equipment to what you do. It sounds as though a switch to FF is where you should head. The 6D sounds like it might be a good fit for you.

Agreed. The 7D and 6D though make a great combination. But not if you don't need to shoot action.

kin2son wrote in post #16275180 (external link)
Capable lens requires capable body to maximise its benefits. Pairing L lens with a crop camera is like putting a huge turbo in a Toyota Yaris.

Absolute nonsense. If anything crop cameras benefit more from L lenses because of the pixel density. You need sharper lenses on a crop. A super sharp lens like the 70-200mm IS II 2.8 on a 7D will allow for tighter cropping than a non-L lens will, it's feeding the tight pixels of the 7D more resolution.
Full frame is more tolerant of cheaper lenses because of the better sensor, the 7D is more fussy.
However of course the best combination is an L lens and full frame.


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Sep 15, 2013 05:41 |  #43

Cheers to everyone who took time to comment on this thread. I dunno, I've just been shooting with the 70-200 without problems, and apart from having to hard reset the 7D, I have got so used to it now, and can pretty much change the settings without taking it away from my face. Been happy with the results so far, and ordered a Tokina 11-16 2.8 MkII last night so going to have some wide angle fun soon :)




  
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