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Do the amazing landscapes we see exist??

 
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Sep 17, 2013 22:29 |  #16

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As long as the end of the day you get that vision you wanted when you pressed the shutter button.

Therein lies the difference I guess. Some choose not to have a "vison" other than what lies purely within the capability of the lens. What's in their head (or not) seems to be of no consequence other than the purist technicalities of actually taking the shot. The difference between a documenter and an artist/crafsman IYW


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Sep 17, 2013 22:32 |  #17

There are people that photograph objects. They take a photograph of a red car and yep that looks just like a red car. Technically perfect. And then there are those that take a photograph what that red car means to them. Which one do you think is special?




  
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Sep 17, 2013 22:35 |  #18

bidkev wrote in post #16305489 (external link)
Therein lies the difference I guess. Some choose not to have a "vison" other than what lies purely within the capability of the lens. What's in their head (or not) seems to be of no consequence other than the purist technicalities of actually taking the shot. The difference between a documenter and an artist/crafsman IYW

Yep!!!!! I agree.




  
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Sep 17, 2013 22:38 |  #19

bidkev wrote in post #16305489 (external link)
Therein lies the difference I guess. Some choose not to have a "vison" other than what lies purely within the capability of the lens. What's in their head (or not) seems to be of no consequence other than the purist technicalities of actually taking the shot. The difference between a documenter and an artist/crafsman IYW

yes and for some that's fine. that's what photography is all about for them. They have to capture what's in front of them the way it really is. We need people like that in photography just as we need those like Ansel Adams.

All photographers are needed, those that edit and those that do not. those that can and those that can't. even the ones who don't share. Photography is never about anyone else but the view in front of the camera and the photographer. The viewer is secondary.


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Sep 17, 2013 22:49 |  #20

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The reason I decided to post is that when considering to goto places to photograph I wonder if they really look like they are depicted by other photographers.

Those locations are very unlikely to look the same to you as they did to other photographers. Seeing is a highly personal, subjective experience. Go to those locations to find out what *you* see, not to find out if there is some objective match to be made.


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Sep 17, 2013 23:15 |  #21

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yes and for some that's fine. that's what photography is all about for them. They have to capture what's in front of them the way it really is. We need people like that in photography just as we need those like Ansel Adams.

All photographers are needed, those that edit and those that do not. those that can and those that can't. even the ones who don't share. Photography is never about anyone else but the view in front of the camera and the photographer. The viewer is secondary.

Agreed. There's a place for all "types". It's just a pity that some "purists" don't seem able to acknowledge that, or that the tools they use, can be used differently by those with similar tools.


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Sep 17, 2013 23:17 |  #22

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There are people that photograph objects. They take a photograph of a red car and yep that looks just like a red car. Technically perfect. And then there are those that take a photograph what that red car means to them. Which one do you think is special?

Ask Monty Python that ;) :lol:


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Sep 17, 2013 23:18 |  #23

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There are people that photograph objects. They take a photograph of a red car and yep that looks just like a red car. Technically perfect. And then there are those that take a photograph what that red car means to them. Which one do you think is special?

You're confusing technician/artist and means used. They're independent.

So besides the types you listed, there are those that need to photoshop a photo of a red car to make it red. They think they're special. They think they're artists. They think they're photographers. Do you think they're special?


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Sep 17, 2013 23:20 |  #24

I think we are talking different slants here-what I'm refering to is pictures that have been butchered to unrealistic levels-for examples colors that just aren't possible in reality. These pics look terrible to me and many others. These pics are typical of newbs playing with Lightroom and shoukdnt be encouraged IMHO

Of course pics that have been adjusted 'slightly' to covey the mood can be wonderful, but the imperative word is slightly




  
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Sep 17, 2013 23:23 |  #25

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There has been a bone of centention for me for quite a while.

Since last January, right? :rolleyes:


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Sep 17, 2013 23:25 |  #26

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I think we are talking different slants here-what I'm refering to is pictures that have been butchered to unrealistic levels-for examples colors that just aren't possible in reality. These pics look terrible to me and many others. These pics are typical of newbs playing with Lightroom and shoukdnt be encouraged IMHO

Of course pics that have been adjusted 'slightly' to covey the mood can be wonderful, but the imperative word is slightly

Yes, just like when people edit a landscape to make it black-and-white: it's just so fake! So not possible in reality! ;)


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Sep 17, 2013 23:28 |  #27

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Yes, just like when people edit a landscape to make it black-and-white: it's just so fake! So not possible in reality! ;)

Or use a long exposure to blur the motion of a waterfall or to catch several lightning strikes in a single shot. Landscape photos that look nothing, absolutely nothing, like what was actually visible to the naked eye. It's a travesty, I tell you! :lol:


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Sep 17, 2013 23:30 |  #28

Happysnapperman wrote in post #16304959 (external link)
Were those mountains that colour, was the water a deep turquoise, were the leaves really that vivid?

It's not as vivid. The blacks are not that black. The whites are not that white.

The colors are often not that saturated. But the trick is not to make a literal copy of reality. It can be done. Google maps does this sort of documentary. WYSIWYG

The trick is to distort reality through your medium to make an interesting photograph. That requires you to see differently. It's like learning to paint. You have to learn to see reality, and be able to deconstruct it into shapes, textures and brightness which can be put down on paper... all of them determine the mood.


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Sep 18, 2013 00:15 |  #29

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Yes, just like when people edit a landscape to make it black-and-white: it's just so fake! So not possible in reality! ;)

krb wrote in post #16305599 (external link)
Or use a long exposure to blur the motion of a waterfall or to catch several lightning strikes in a single shot. Landscape photos that look nothing, absolutely nothing, like what was actually visible to the naked eye. It's a travesty, I tell you! :lol:

Wow, so are you defending newbs who over process pictures that look terrible, or are you just being trolls...

Gee that forum can be so disspointing at times....




  
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Sep 18, 2013 01:44 |  #30

^ Wait to see some beautiful shoots from Phrasikleia 1st.

Back to OP question: many people spend hours / days or even multiple visits to the same location to take a single great shot; and there will be very difficult for someone else to make 'the same' photo during their causal visit.


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