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Sep 20, 2013 17:25 |  #1

Hello everyone!

So I plan to upgrade my T3i to a Canon 70D. I was planning on buying the 18-135mm kit and I saw that Amazon, Best Buy and such were offering a deal where if I buy the camera plus a 70-300mm lens I can save $300 on the lens (normally $650). So basically the 70D kit with 18-135mm ($1,549) plus the 70-300mm lens for $350. In total $1,900. My question is though... I don't need the camera until I move which isn't until mid December. Should I wait to see if there are any Black Friday deals or should I go ahead and purchase it now? Like I said I don't need it now, but if the deal is good I don't want to pass it up. This is my first time buying a mid-range DSLR so I don't know if people really do Black Friday sales on them. Thanks in advance!




  
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Sep 20, 2013 17:39 |  #2

There are no promises of future sales or that the discount in the lens will be around in December. Roll dice.


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Sep 20, 2013 17:41 |  #3

Frodge wrote in post #16312633 (external link)
There are no promises of future sales or that the discount in the lens will be around in December. Roll dice.

Oh I definitely understand that. I'm just looking for opinions based off past sales. Maybe somebody on this forum was in the dilemma I am in. I understand nothing can be promised.




  
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Sep 20, 2013 18:02 |  #4

The SL1 dropped $50 about 3 months after it was released.
Doesn't mean there will be any drops on the 70D in the near future.
My thoughts are that if you don't need it, don't get it.
Your warranty starts on day 1, so you will be throwing away 3 months of it if it's sitting in a box since you don't need it anyway.




  
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Sep 20, 2013 18:07 as a reply to  @ Kunk's post |  #5

IMHO save the $350 on the 70-300 lens. You can find them on the forum at that price or less and save the sales tax. I bit on a similar BB deal when I bought a T3 but ended up selling the 70-300 in favor of the 70-200L. Have since sold the 70-200L, tried the 70-300 again buying a copy from Canon refurb program for $290 shipped, shortly after sold it and now have a 100-400L.


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Sep 20, 2013 18:25 |  #6

crbinson wrote in post #16312697 (external link)
IMHO save the $350 on the 70-300 lens. You can find them on the forum at that price or less and save the sales tax. I bit on a similar BB deal when I bought a T3 but ended up selling the 70-300 in favor of the 70-200L. Have since sold the 70-200L, tried the 70-300 again buying a copy from Canon refurb program for $290 shipped, shortly after sold it and now have a 100-400L.

Thanks for the tips. I guess I'm not really 100% what I want as far as lens go. Basically what I think I'll be shooting is landscapes, nature, and some auto-racing. I'm moving to England in December and will travel Europe so I foresee a lot of pictures of buildings, landscapes, and cities. Currently I have the 75-300mm without IS, and I have the 50mm f/1.8.

If I was to say have a budget of $2,300. What would you recommend I go with. This budget would include filters, hoods, and a case.




  
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Sep 20, 2013 19:59 |  #7

Definitely should wait. Why?

After about half a year, 5D Mark III was available from an authorized dealer for as low as $2,650 (or cheaper if you buy gray market). That's about 24% price drop.

After about 3-4 months, 6D was available from an authorized dealer for as low as $1,600 (or cheaper if you do rebate and sell the rest). That's at least 24% price drop.

APS-C cameras have less demand than ever. It's not a huge improvement in image quality. Some people are still happy with their old 50D, 60D, 7D, T5i, T4i and so on. Some people who used to buy "advanced amateur" cameras like 7D just because they couldn't afford a 5D Mark II now can buy a 6D or a used 5D Mark II.

I bet that not too long you'll be able to get a 70D for $850 or under.


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Sep 20, 2013 22:19 |  #8

Clemson656 wrote in post #16312904 (external link)
Definitely should wait. Why?

You forget one important thing....technology and prices change regularly and for all that time you're missing out.

Buy one at the best price now and enjoy your new camera.


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Sep 20, 2013 22:30 |  #9

A short answer is, $350 for a 70-300 is a reasonable deal for a reasonable lens, but not necessarily a fantastic deal that should force your hand. It can be routinely found used for $400, and it is a relatively old lens.

Another way to ask the question is, what is the 70D going to do for you that your T3i can't do. Do you shoot sports or in inclement weather? If you end up having a slightly difficult time exactly distinguishing what the body upgrade will do for you, you can consider keeping the very capable T3i and putting the money into some excellent fast glass!


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Sep 20, 2013 22:52 |  #10

Do you have Lightroom and/or Photoshop? If not, I personally think the investing in those, as well as a few instructional books/videos will do more for your photos than any lens or body. Postprocessing capabilities are truly amazing, and make most filters obsolete.

Tripod: you might as well rent a very nice carbon fiber tripod for the trip.

Lens: You will be traveling. Most people make the classic mistake of upgrading, upgrading, carrying around 30 lbs of equipment, and ultimately not enjoying the trip as much. I would say you can consider an ultrazoom, like Tamron 18-270. I personally would rent an ultra-wide angle, but you can consider just doing 1 lens. You already have a 50 1.8.

Filters: only 1. Circular polarizer

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Sep 20, 2013 22:57 as a reply to  @ MingTyhMaa's post |  #11

If you are moving to England, buy it now to avoid the VAT! Usually the Black Friday sales are on Rebels and such.

Bodies go on sale when they have been out for a while because they are into their total lifespan and the early adopters have bought them and the demand levels off. If you buy now, you get to use it for longer before the next one comes out, and you will have time to practice and get used to it before moving.


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Sep 20, 2013 23:48 as a reply to  @ Keyan's post |  #12

Hey all! Thanks for the great responses. The reason I want to upgrade from my T3i to the 70D body is because of a few reasons:
1. My T3i's interior is slightly messed up. The red dots that show where I'm autofocused don't flash anymore. Well it does a little but it is very faint. I had it look at for repairs and Canon wanted around $500 to fix it, which there is no way I'm paying that much.
2. I LOVE the autofocus system in the 70D. I was messing around with it at Best Buy and loved it. I try and do videos and I would like to record auto racing, but with the T3i it was a pain to manual focus as a car drove towards me without keeping the aperture closed.
3. To be honest: I have the money to make the upgrade.

With the thing for England. It's not just a vacation. I am actually moving there for two years. I'll actually be living next to a national park there :D so I plan on learning a lot.

I do have Lightroom, and I am enrolled in a class that starts on the 30th on how to do editing.

Hopefully that answered everything.




  
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Sep 21, 2013 00:46 |  #13

Go for it. The 70-300 IS is much better than the 75-300 you currently have and it sounds like you will have use for it.


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Sep 21, 2013 00:51 |  #14

I would also suggest looking into the Tamron 70-300 VC. The sharpness is pretty much the same as the Canon, but the VC offers a lot more than Canon's IS on the 70-300. It is also 350 after rebates. It comes with a hood and the front element does not rotate like the Canon. That is what made me go with it over the Canon.


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Sep 21, 2013 03:07 |  #15
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I had the 70-300. It is not worth $350. You can find it used for less than that. Why? Because people who have tried it are moving to something better. It is optically slow, focuses slow and is too soft at 300mm. Save your money for something better.

I just picked up a used 55-250 for $100. It is better at 250mm than the 70-300 is at 300. And I can use the 55-250 wide open. The 70-300 is way too soft wide open at 300mm. Pass on that deal.

Canon is currently offering a bunch of package deals that include the 70-300. Hint, hint! Seems to me they want to unload a barge-load of these things.


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