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Sep 23, 2013 07:49 |  #3856

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Sep 23, 2013 07:50 |  #3857

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I will use 1600 without hesitation, 3200 if necessary, and start to look at other options if I need 6400. I did a wedding last year in a candle lit church with virtually black windows (plus it was dark outside) and to get a nice wide shot of the whole thing I was shooting at something like 16mm, 1/30sec, f2.8, ISO25600. The image was noisy, but it cleaned up okay from the 5d3 - I wouldn't put it on an A2 print though as I say!

The only reason focal length will affect your results is the corresponding shutter speed you require... for example shooting at 24mm then you could get away with a shutter speed of about 1/30 if people aren't moving about too quickly - especially with IS. But 1/30 at 105mm means you could well have a blurry picture - depends how good the IS is and how steady your hand is. 1/30 doesn't guarantee to freeze the motion either, but it gives you 1.5 stops of light over 1/100, for example.

Again it depends what type of shots you were getting, and how much room you had to work with, but in a situation like that, I would probably use my 50mm f1.4 and shoot at about f2, which gives you 2 stops of light over f4 - hence for 1/100 I would have been at ISO1600 instead of 6400. Obviously f2 isn't always practical, especially if you're shooting groups, so flash would have been the answer in this situation - especially if you could have bounced it off the ceiling.

That’s really helpful, thanks Chris. Its funny, most of that I did actually already know but on the day I forgot the basics and went on to do my own thing. Im definitely using flash in future like you say!!

I have a 50mm 1.8- apart from it being plastic and a bit noisey (as in sound, not picture quality) is it worth an upgrade to the 1.4. For the £200 extra, will I be getting my moneys worth by upgrading? Im still not convinced the 24-105 is for me at the moment either but Ill have to stick with it for now.


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Sep 23, 2013 08:07 as a reply to  @ post 16317918 |  #3858

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Sep 23, 2013 08:32 |  #3859

matttoofif wrote in post #16318078 (external link)
That’s really helpful, thanks Chris. Its funny, most of that I did actually already know but on the day I forgot the basics and went on to do my own thing. Im definitely using flash in future like you say!!

I have a 50mm 1.8- apart from it being plastic and a bit noisey (as in sound, not picture quality) is it worth an upgrade to the 1.4. For the £200 extra, will I be getting my moneys worth by upgrading? Im still not convinced the 24-105 is for me at the moment either but Ill have to stick with it for now.

Well i've just done exactly that... (gone from the 1.8 to the 1.4 for an additional £200). Was it worth it? More yes than no...

Yes it was worth it because I now use it for weddings - there's no way I would have brought the 1.8 out the bag at a wedding, and it gives you another shooting dimension having a 50mm fast prime that you can actually use! I find it slightly soft at 1.4, but that's when comparing it against L lenses, so it's not really that surprising for a £250 lens - it's lovely and sharp stopped down to f2. The AF is much better than the 1.8, but again it's no L lens, and can be a bit hit and miss. I've used the 50L, and to be brutally honest, whilst the AF is more accurate and consistent, it is also much slower that I was expecting, so the 1.4 is a happy medium in that sense.

On the other hand... No it wasn't worth the extra because I'm already thinking about replacing it with the 35L when I can afford it... slightly better focal length for my style of shooting and also more useful on a crop body than the 50mm. Focus on the 35L wins hands down, and sharpness + contrast is that of an L lens, so win there too! Having said that, there is an £800 price difference... is the 35L worth £800 over the 50 1.4??? I'm sure you could argue it both ways based on your needs, but I think that's what i'll be doing at some point. Particularly for the 'other' features you get with L lenses - build quality, accurate AF, CPS benefits, etc. I bought the 50 1.4 used for £250, and I'm sure I'll get £50 for the 1.8, so it was a £200 upgrade. No doubt i'll get £200-250 back as and when I come to buy the 35L so I haven't exactly lost anything. If you've got the cash available then I'd say go for it because you can always sell it on again if you don't get on with it, just don't expect L quality.


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Sep 23, 2013 09:24 |  #3860

I love this body connected to the 500 for sports shooting. It's snaps to focus on the players.


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Sep 23, 2013 10:50 |  #3861

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So I did my first wedding reception at the weekend having recently upgraded from a 450d to a 5D mkiii. The outside shots were fine but indoors, using the 24-105 lens I shot in Av priority and found that the ISO I needed to shoot at around 1/100 was 6400. I thought this would be fine with the 5D but getting the pictures home and zooming in, they are pretty noisey and not particularly sharp. I know I can clear a lot of the noise up in Lightroom but I am a little bit disappointed at how soft some of them are. Is this simply because I’m limited with the speed of my lens or are there any techniques I can use to improve the quality in future?

Guess what others have responded has been helpful. On most occasions, I find the noise at 6400 to be ok from the 5D3. But then there are times I am disappointed as well. I have now learned to always do some test shots and check the histogram!!


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Sep 23, 2013 11:12 |  #3862

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Sep 23, 2013 12:09 as a reply to  @ Frank H's post |  #3863

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Sep 23, 2013 15:11 |  #3865

Gene, youve been pumping out some seriously awesome work.


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Sep 23, 2013 16:06 |  #3866

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Gene, youve been pumping out some seriously awesome work.

Thanks for the kind words Shane, I do get lucky sometimes. :D

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Sep 23, 2013 16:09 |  #3867

Finally pulled the trigger for a 5D Mark III today. Upgrading from my Mark II. Can't wait to join in on this thread. Great shots!


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Sep 23, 2013 16:36 |  #3868

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Sep 23, 2013 20:02 |  #3870

No one should be complaining about noise, shadow or otherwise! Here is a 12800 shot in near darkness.

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