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Lightroom...I finally get it.

 
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Sep 20, 2013 14:25 |  #61

nicksan wrote in post #16311246 (external link)
This is definitely true and the biggest problem I was having was discipline. Instead of working on one photo at a time including resizing and saving as JPEG, which is a huge time waster, I could have culled, processed in ACR (pretty much the same in Bridge and LR except presented differently) and then save to JPEG in a batch.

So in some sense moving to LR doesn't inherently change that b/c I could still be working with an inefficient workflow and wasting lots of time.

So from my perspective, it's primary the LR interface that I've finally come to understand because I've been using Bridge for a very long time and didn't want to try anything different. The fact that I can use the same plugins that I use in PS in LR is also a big plus as well. Photoshop will remain part of my workflow for when I need more advanced editing using layers, etc. But I would estimate I can stay in LR 90% of the time, especially with having my PS plugins in LR.

Personally I gave LR a go three times, including buying a book by the Lightroom Queen. I just couldn't get used to the slow workflow it imposes.

I cull using FastPictureViewer (external link), I think it doubles my speed compared with Bridge.


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Sep 27, 2013 07:47 |  #62

tim wrote in post #16312246 (external link)
Personally I gave LR a go three times, including buying a book by the Lightroom Queen. I just couldn't get used to the slow workflow it imposes.

I cull using FastPictureViewer (external link), I think it doubles my speed compared with Bridge.

I'm going to check this out.

I've been culling in LR and while it's OK, the image takes a few seconds to show in full quality. Over the course of thousands of images, that's a LOT of time wasted just on culling alone.




  
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Sep 27, 2013 08:51 |  #63

I use DPP, quick check, full screen to cull before importing into LR.


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Sep 27, 2013 09:25 |  #64

for you guys culling in other programs, do those ratings from photomechanic or whatever come through to LR?

my workflow is not as straightforward as cull then process, then export and burn.
i'm constantly culling and editing it seems. maybe I have adhd but I like having those ratings through the whole process. because I skim through and rate some off the bat to come up with some sneak peeks, then I go through and do much more culling/rating. maybe while doing that I see something else I want to edit and post somewhere (blog, facebook, sneek peaks, etc.). when i'm "done" culling/rating, i'll start my big editing push, but i'm still finding myself trying to reduce the number of images.
Am I the only one that does it like this? that's why I love LR, I'm in the whole time (except the occasional PS edit).

I rate like this too:
1- no good, probably will delete.
2- not up to my standards, but ok photo. I don't throw these away in case I end up needing it for some reason.
3- standard photo, 3+ and the client will get it on disk.
4- bigarchi likey. will go into portfolio, album, etc.
5- favorite. submit for contest, showcase, etc.

often, something is a 3 when i'm doing my initial culling but later I'll see I got a shot of the same thing that is a bit better and I don't need both, so i'll drop the rating.
the ratings are always with the files, so I can always go back and sort by them.


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Sep 27, 2013 09:41 |  #65

I have a two choice cull... keep or delete. Nothing in-between.

For sneak peeks I just chose those which meet with my sneak formula.


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Sep 27, 2013 09:55 |  #66

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I have a two choice cull... keep or delete. Nothing in-between.

yeah, I have a feeling I'm in a minority with wanting to rate on a scale more than just deciding between keep & delete


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Sep 27, 2013 10:02 |  #67

Lightroom? could never get into it, remains an idle icon.

Surprised that culling can be so slow with other pgms. I'll open 150 - 200 in ACR at a time and they're either keep or delete. They load fast, sometimes I have to wait a few seconds for the computer to catch up but I'm usually stopping to have a play with an image so there's no delay really.

Besides LR I've used DPP and a few other pgms because I'm often feeling that I'm missing out on something whilst reading this forum. But for me ACR is a one stop (free) pgm which delivers all I need. I'll sometimes use Photoshop after saving to jpegs for more intricate editing but that's not many at all.


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Sep 27, 2013 10:18 |  #68

nicksan wrote in post #16328885 (external link)
I'm going to check this out.

I've been culling in LR and while it's OK, the image takes a few seconds to show in full quality. Over the course of thousands of images, that's a LOT of time wasted just on culling alone.

here is a you tube tutorial on fastviewer......Tim...​. this looks awesome. Anymore info on this

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=3z0_biM-2f8 (external link)


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Sep 27, 2013 14:11 |  #69

nicksan wrote in post #16306261 (external link)
Thanks for the tip. I usually resize to 10MP. (3888 on the long side) So I think I should be safe.

That bug was fixed with the new release of V 5.2


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Sep 27, 2013 14:21 |  #70

I am pretty use Photomechanic 4.69 is free.

http://www.camerabits.​com/downloads/ (external link)

I will be sure to check them out at Photoplus this year.


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Sep 27, 2013 15:29 |  #71

tim wrote in post #16312246 (external link)
Personally I gave LR a go three times, including buying a book by the Lightroom Queen. I just couldn't get used to the slow workflow it imposes.

I cull using FastPictureViewer (external link), I think it doubles my speed compared with Bridge.

I use this and it rocks. I can't recommend this enough for culling.

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I am pretty use Photomechanic 4.69 is free.

http://www.camerabits.​com/downloads/ (external link)

I will be sure to check them out at Photoplus this year.

Are you saying the older version of Photomechanic is free?


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Sep 27, 2013 15:56 |  #72

memoriesoftomorrow wrote in post #16329110 (external link)
I have a two choice cull... keep or delete. Nothing in-between.

Me too.


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Sep 27, 2013 17:35 |  #73

ThreeGuysPhoto wrote in post #16329780 (external link)
I use this and it rocks. I can't recommend this enough for culling.

Are you saying the older version of Photomechanic is free?

I heard it was free. When I checked out the link today, there is no option to buy or try the older version.

I did download it today and going to give it a try.


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Sep 27, 2013 18:14 |  #74

ThreeGuysPhoto wrote in post #16329780 (external link)
I use this and it rocks. I can't recommend this enough for culling.

Are you saying the older version of Photomechanic is free?

DRATS !!! not free


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Sep 27, 2013 19:24 as a reply to  @ scorpio_e's post |  #75

nicksan wrote in post #16328885 (external link)
I'm going to check this out.

I've been culling in LR and while it's OK, the image takes a few seconds to show in full quality. Over the course of thousands of images, that's a LOT of time wasted just on culling alone.

Yeah it's pretty awesome. Images are preloaded, and in practice you never need to wait for images to load. It's instant.


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