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24mm TS-E viable replacement for 17-40?

 
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Sep 27, 2013 13:20 |  #1

Mostly doing landscapes and car shows with the 17-40; should I be considering the TS-E be a viable replacement? Never having used a TS-E lens; and not really being happy with a 14mm Rokinon; curious on others thoughts.

I would be considering the 17mm TS-E; but I like the option for easy filters when I'm crawling over rocks next to a waterfall with spray flying..


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Sep 27, 2013 19:00 |  #2

Yes, if your primary focus is car shows and landscapes - I think the 24mm TS-E II is the perfect lens. I assume you're talking about the Mark II version of the lens, and not the Mark I. The first version is very soft and unless you're good at post-processing - it's tough to get great results. The current (Mark II) version is amazing by comparison and probably one of the sharpest lenses Canon has ever made for landscape photography. The ability to control perspective and DOF with this lens cannot be understated, however, there is a pretty big learning curve. If you're ready for that challenge (and have the budget for a $2K lens, I say go for it!


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Sep 27, 2013 19:02 |  #3

I just bought a T/S E 17mm 1.4 L lenes.
I will be putting my T/S E 24 mm MK 1 L 1.3 lens up for sale if you are interested then pm me.

As of the 17-40 Sorry I haven't ever owned one.


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Sep 27, 2013 20:08 |  #4

I owned the 17-40 for a number of years when I was normally shooting a 1DmkII crop. It has better performance and is less expensive than the 16-35/2.8 version 1. However when moving to a full frame body I found the corners/edge performance of the 17-40 frustratingly soft.

For several years I have shot with the 24 TSE II and 17 TSE lenses, both are really terrific. However, I do not necessarily see the 24 TSE II lens alone as replacement for the compositional flexibility of a WA zoom. Whereas shift may be fine handheld, the TSE lenses require a tripod to properly use tilt, and close inspection of the LCD in Live View is mandatory. Getting close to the focal plane can provide an unusual, dramatic angle with lots of foreground, but this low to the ground angle won't work for every WA scene. Although I seldom carry a zoom, I have plenty of primes to cover all focal lengths.

On the other hand, for WA landscapes, TSE lens shifts facilitate 3 shots panos, essentailly doubling the angle of view. Why don't you rent a 24 TSE and see if it is your cup of tea? They do take quite some time to figure out tilt movements though.
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Sep 27, 2013 22:51 |  #5

They're very different lens... Plus one to the rent it for a car show, you may find your self really missing the zoom at car shows where "zoom feet" can be hard to use.




  
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Sep 27, 2013 22:55 |  #6
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Been using nothing but the 24mm TS-E II since my 17-40 was purloined. It's my only wide-angle and it's been great. I intended to use it for architecture mostly when I purchased it, but have ended up using it for everything: portraits, events, products, landscape and even architecture.


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Sep 28, 2013 06:22 as a reply to  @ Alveric's post |  #7

http://www.lensrentals​.com …ialty/canon-ts-e-17mm-f4l (external link)

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Sep 28, 2013 11:05 as a reply to  @ farmer1957's post |  #8

I don't think it is a replacement. Having both a 17mm TS-E which I use with TC's and the 17-40 I'd say I use both still. I try to use the TS-E when I can because even with a x2TC is is nicer than the 17-40, but there are times when a light UWA zoom is indispensable.


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Sep 28, 2013 12:17 |  #9

Why not just buying the tse-24??


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Sep 28, 2013 13:40 |  #10
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It's not particularly cheap. Not one of those things you can spend money on and then find out you don't like it or that you're not using it too much.


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Sep 28, 2013 13:43 |  #11

I think you're going to be frustrated at the lack of AF and zoom for car shows in specific. Of course YMMV. As others suggested, rent it and see.


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Sep 28, 2013 14:05 |  #12
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If you're doing fast-paced photography, the lack of auto focus is gonna be frustrating and will slow you down, as you can't really be using LiveView for this. You'll still get the focusing beep and blinking of the focus point, but it's not easy to nail the focus if the subject is moving fast.


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Sep 28, 2013 15:46 |  #13

I have both. Got the 17-40L first.

I use the 24tse as much as I can but there are situations the 17-40 get used.

Whenever I need wider in a single shot or weathersealing etc. I wouldnt shoot seascapes like I do with the tse.


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Sep 28, 2013 16:24 |  #14

Am I also correct in understanding there is a lot of foamy washing and beer spilling involved at some of these car meets? :lol:

The TS-E is the last lens you should pick if it involves any amount of liquid splashing.


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Sep 28, 2013 17:38 as a reply to  @ powerslave's post |  #15

buy 2 tse 24 mm lenes that way if you spill a drink on them they don't have to drink alone :mrgreen:




  
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