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Oct 04, 2013 14:10 |  #76

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I find Amazon prices are same as or usually a little less than other online retail.

And yet Helen and I are here and they're ... not. Call them and ask to speak to someone with a background in photography as a multi-year pro so you can get real-world advice about a product. I buy plenty fomr Amazon, books and CDs and cheap sneakers, but for serious advice about serious hardware and how it's used? Fuggedaboudtittt!


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Oct 04, 2013 14:11 |  #77

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Interesting; I couldn't get B&H to use regular Paypal at all; ...

I am very sorry. Feel free to email details so I can look into this.


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Oct 04, 2013 14:15 |  #78

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One thing that I like about Amazon is the return policy. If I don't feel the lens or other accessory is up to par, or I feel it has faults that aren't due to a manufacturing issue I return it at no cost. Not only do I return it at no cost, but I don't have to do anything or go out of my way to have it returned. I simply request a return online (incredibly easy process) tape the box back up, set it on the front step and Amazon has UPS come pick it up the next day. No need to even print a return label. All the while a new copy or a return is already being handled.


One thing that I like about B&His the return policy. If I don't feel the lens or other accessory is up to par, or I feel it has faults that aren't due to a manufacturing issue I return it at no cost. Not only do I return it at no cost, but I don't have to do anything or go out of my way to have it returned. I simply request a return online (incredibly easy process) tape the box back up, ... No need to even print a return label since it's emailed with the return authorization.

I'd be reluctant to leave a $1000 lens on my porch. Between when I lave it and when UPS comes to pick it up is a wide area of opportunity for neighborhood miscreants. YMMV.


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Oct 04, 2013 14:18 |  #79

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Oct 04, 2013 14:21 |  #80

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Well, Helen, I have no idea how Crutchfield and Amazon do it. I pay the same amount of cash at both places for Canon lenses and cameras as I would pay at Adorama and B&H.

I'm not familiar with Crutchfield but I know two things about Amazon. For years they operated at a loss with serious negative cash flow in order to build market share. It's easy to offer freebies when making a profit isn't a priority. Today they sell a far wider range of items than Adorama or B&H. Some have far greater markups than the average camera or lens or other electronic device we sell. If you can make more on soft goods, you can more easily afford to skim prices on competitive electronics, shipping, etc.

And, they have no sales staff, no training programs so sales associates can help you choose Nikon vs Canon. No employees who used to be professional photographers to discuss the merits of soft boxes vs umbrellas or short vs butterfly lighting.


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Oct 04, 2013 14:24 |  #81

craigslist, ebay, other members here and on FM. I try to follow wealthy people with lens/gear ADHD around with cash.

I've never bought any gear new in 15 years of doing this. Clearly someone has to as my comment above alludes to.


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Oct 04, 2013 14:39 |  #82

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In Canada, The Camera Store
http://www.thecamerast​ore.com/ (external link)

Some day I might try B&H but cross border can be a hassle at times. Although I have great experience with lands End.

Camera Store seems to be a well kept secret.

Check their price on the 5DIII against that of B + H:

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …2&N=4288586280+​4291570227 (external link)

Then tell me why anyone in Canada would deal with couriers, customs, and brokers?

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Oct 04, 2013 18:03 |  #83

henryp wrote in post #16346104 (external link)
And yet Helen and I are here and they're ... not. Call them and ask to speak to someone with a background in photography as a multi-year pro so you can get real-world advice about a product. I buy plenty fomr Amazon, books and CDs and cheap sneakers, but for serious advice about serious hardware and how it's used? Fuggedaboudtittt!

First off, I HAVE bought camera gear from both B&H and Adorama ... NO COMPLAINTS at all! Great gear and service! I value the info you provide here on POTN! I haven't had my Amazon Prime all that long but I do find the prices a little lower. Example ... just now checked on a Canon 7D (ok, older camera, whatever!) I can save $160 buying it on Amazon. Don't even know if I would have to pay shipping (won't with Prime! But I have no need for a 2nd 7D ... just checking! )

For me, $160 IS a significant amount. And I usually do check prices before ordering!


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Oct 05, 2013 13:29 |  #84

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I'm not familiar with Crutchfield but I know two things about Amazon. For years they operated at a loss with serious negative cash flow in order to build market share. It's easy to offer freebies when making a profit isn't a priority. Today they sell a far wider range of items than Adorama or B&H. Some have far greater markups than the average camera or lens or other electronic device we sell. If you can make more on soft goods, you can more easily afford to skim prices on competitive electronics, shipping, etc.

And, they have no sales staff, no training programs so sales associates can help you choose Nikon vs Canon. No employees who used to be professional photographers to discuss the merits of soft boxes vs umbrellas or short vs butterfly lighting.

Perhaps you are correct, but since you also work for B&H I will have to take your words with a grain of salt. And please don't get me wrong; I am aware that both B&H and Adorama are two of the most reliable retailers in the nation. That said, keep an eye on the market news relating to Amazon and new hires toward the new year.

Before I buy from Amazon, I do my homework relating to the product I plan to purchase. The same when I buy from Crutchfield, although the latter's customer service personnel are nothing but outstanding. Their video and audio technicians even help you on the telephone should you have any problem during the installation of electronic components at your home or automobile.




  
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Oct 05, 2013 13:30 |  #85

I have had good luck with Adorama and B&H but a few years ago my company moved and our new office is about a block from a Calumet photo. Convenient but horrible for my wallet.


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Oct 05, 2013 13:34 |  #86

Calumet. I have had an account with them for a couple of decades.




  
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Oct 05, 2013 15:37 |  #87

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.....please don't get me wrong; I am aware that both B&H and Adorama are two of the most reliable retailers in the nation.....

I'm always taken aback when Adorama (and B&H) are compared with Amazon. Not only for the reasons that Henry cited, but because Amazon, is the world's largest Internet retailer, with fulfilment centers in 12 US States, PLUS, 3 locations in Canada, 4 locations in Scotland, 5 in England, 3 in Wales, 5 in France, 4 in each of Germany and Japan, 3 in China, and 1 in each of Slovakia and Italy.

Amazon operations are subsidized by investors who care only about growth. Pay for things by selling stock and you can provide twice the service for half the price. I once read that 'if the market ever catches on, Amazon would fold like a paper castle on a rainy day!"

Adorama is a family business in NYC with a single distribution center in New Jersey.....

Unfortunately, we can't even begin to think about competing with a behemoth like Amazon



  
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Oct 05, 2013 15:46 |  #88

I Look for the best deal but usually use B&H or Adorama


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Oct 05, 2013 16:39 |  #89

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I'm always taken aback when Adorama (and B&H) are compared with Amazon. Not only for the reasons that Henry cited, but because Amazon, is the world's largest Internet retailer, with fulfilment centers in 12 US States, PLUS, 3 locations in Canada, 4 locations in Scotland, 5 in England, 3 in Wales, 5 in France, 4 in each of Germany and Japan, 3 in China, and 1 in each of Slovakia and Italy.

Amazon operations are subsidized by investors who care only about growth. Pay for things by selling stock and you can provide twice the service for half the price. I once read that 'if the market ever catches on, Amazon would fold like a paper castle on a rainy day!"

Adorama is a family business in NYC with a single distribution center in New Jersey.....

Unfortunately, we can't even begin to think about competing with a behemoth like Amazon

Helen, while I agree with your points we can't ignore the fact that the only way a business can be successful is by increasing profit, regardless of growth or not. The market changes each day, and a great portion of the retail future may very well be the way Amazon and a myriad of new companies are conducting their business nowadays (on the Internet). Also, Adorama and B&H sell online just like Amazon. Right? I imagine that selling online can be more profitable than having customers visiting your store (?).

Just look at the online market around the nation: you can have a person in his or her home building widgets. That person has a webpage somewhere where he or she advertises and sells his or her "widgets," without having a store with all the added expenses. My wife is visiting a very small town in Northern Washington, and you won't believe the number of art pieces and other stuff the locals create. They do show their creations at some of the very few local stores, but the sales are being conducted online.

It's not that I agree with this view, but that's the way things are nowadays, and perhaps a reason why a lot of local business are closing their doors (competition is killing them). A lot of the expense is paying for the prime real state the store is using.




  
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Oct 05, 2013 17:21 |  #90

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It's not that I agree with this view, but that's the way things are nowadays, and perhaps a reason why a lot of local business are closing their doors (competition is killing them). A lot of the expense is paying for the prime real state the store is using.

Another big issue is the fact that many online retailers don't have to collect state and local sales taxes from many of their customers. Here in RI, that makes a 7% price difference right off the top. Once most states (or the feds) start requiring that, some of that price advantage will evaporate, while shipping costs will still be a factor for larger items.


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