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Oct 08, 2013 08:43 |  #1

I currently use OCF with two speedlites. I am looking into using a stobe light instead. I do not shoot in a studio, only outside. Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced strobe that is capable of over powering sunlight if needed. TYIA


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Oct 08, 2013 08:54 |  #2

To overpower daylight, full daylight, you are talking about needing around 1200 watt seconds of light. Not something thing that can be cheaply done. If you live with fill light and not overpowering full sun, but having enough power for most jobs look at the alien bee 1600.




  
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Oct 08, 2013 09:12 |  #3

Einsteins are the way to go :D


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Oct 08, 2013 09:12 |  #4

You will also need a battery pack, such as the Vagabond Mini-Lithium if shooting outdoors.


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Oct 08, 2013 09:54 |  #5

check out the Mettle 600 AD. I owned one once and there's a thread here about it.

comes with a battery pack.

http://www.amazon.com …r=8-1&keywords=mettle+600 (external link)

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Oct 08, 2013 10:09 |  #6

gonzogolf wrote in post #16355232 (external link)
To overpower daylight, full daylight, you are talking about needing around 1200 watt seconds of light.

I would not make such a generalization. It's all about distance from light to subject and depends on how large an area you want to light up.

I agree with your recommendation for an Alienbees B1600 plus the Vagabond Mini Lithium power pack. In the US you can't beat that bang-for-the-buck when you want a portable, powerful light.


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Oct 08, 2013 10:14 |  #7

Curtis N wrote in post #16355456 (external link)
I would not make such a generalization. It's all about distance from light to subject and depends on how large an area you want to light up.

I agree with your recommendation for an Alienbees B1600 plus the Vagabond Mini Lithium power pack. In the US you can't beat that bang-for-the-buck when you want a portable, powerful light.

True its a generalization, but one backed with some experience. If you add a modifier and work more than a couple feet from the subject then you run out of juice to truly overpower the sun very quickly.




  
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Oct 08, 2013 11:50 |  #8

+1 for Mettle 600w. Great for outdoors, a bit tricky to use indoors if in a small or really dark area (the lowest output is still pretty high), but I'm using speedlites at that point anyway.


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Oct 08, 2013 12:25 |  #9

that's why I sold mine. I'm mostly indoors, and the while it packs a punch outside, inside it was just a bit too much.

I've got speedlites I use now. portable, and indoors they are more than enough....just miss the modeling light.


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Oct 08, 2013 12:41 |  #10

It also depends on what kind of sunlight you want to overpower. Early morning sun and evening sun are way more easier to overpower vs midday sun.


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Oct 08, 2013 14:04 |  #11

PLLphotography wrote in post #16355402 (external link)
check out the Mettle 600 AD. I owned one once and there's a thread here about it.

comes with a battery pack.

http://www.amazon.com …r=8-1&keywords=mettle+600 (external link)

thread on POTN:
https://photography-on-the.net …4898&highlight=​mettle+600

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Oct 08, 2013 17:28 as a reply to  @ BrickR's post |  #12

I am sorry, I should have said exactly what I am looking for. Majority of the time I only use the flash for fill light. I want the strobe for sunset shots so that I can get the clouds and sunset in the picture also. I do not normally shoot outside is bright sun light so I would not need it for that (although I am willing to play around with it to see how I like it). What I meant by reasonable price is, I want the strobe to work great for the price. I dont mind spending the money, I just dont want to spend it on something that will not work. Thanks everyone for your responses :)


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Oct 08, 2013 17:43 |  #13

This has been recommended as an option on another thread:
Godox XEnergizer Wireless Power-control Outdoor Flash ES-600P


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Oct 08, 2013 17:45 as a reply to  @ Vicke Lynne's post |  #14

What you want is the new Cheetah Light CL-360

This little baby will pack all the punch you will need for sunset photography and give you HSS which you cannot get with a studio strobe.


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Oct 09, 2013 12:42 |  #15

gonzogolf wrote in post #16355466 (external link)
True its a generalization, but one backed with some experience. If you add a modifier and work more than a couple feet from the subject then you run out of juice to truly overpower the sun very quickly.

I've found it pretty easy to overpower the sun from a decent (6 to 10 feet maybe) distance with an AB1600 and a PLM.

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