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Oct 10, 2013 15:52 |  #1

I currently own the Canon 100mm Macro lens and am thinking of stepping up to the "L" version of the same lens. My question is: Will I notice a significant difference in quality of my pictures between the 2 lenses? What would be the primary advantage(s) to going from the 100mm to the 100 mm L?

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Oct 10, 2013 15:57 |  #2

Image stabilization will be the primary advantage.


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Oct 10, 2013 16:06 |  #3

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Oct 10, 2013 16:44 |  #4

You'll be hard pressed to tell apart images from either one. Both are excellent. AF performance is about the same, too.

As Dmitriy stated, IS would be the main advantage. And it's a lot more effective at non-macro distances (3-4 stops) than at macro magnifications (1 stop... maybe).

The 100L also has a somewhat more sophisticated focus limiter. Where the 100/2.8 USM's limiter has two zones, the 100L's has three.

If you opt for the Canon tripod mounting ring, you get to pay more for the 100L's Tripod Ring D, too. It's about $170. The 100/2.8's Tripod Ring B sells for about $140. (Third party tripod rings for either one are $40 to $50.)

Oh, and for the extra $350 (with current rebate offers), with the 100L you get a red stripe, too.


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Oct 10, 2013 16:49 |  #5

As im heavily interested in the 100L, i made a big search and came to this conclusion:

The L has a better contrast and color rendering, while offering a tack more sharpness.
However, these differences seem to be very small.

But, while the 100 non-L is f/2.8, the L version is a bit brighter, around an effective aperture of f/2.6

The L makes for a beautiful portrait lens because of its sharpness and only / or mainly effective use for IS would be portraits.


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Oct 10, 2013 16:51 |  #6

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You'll be hard pressed to tell apart images from either one. Both are excellent. AF performance is about the same, too.

As Dmitriy stated, IS would be the main advantage. And it's a lot more effective at non-macro distances (3-4 stops) than at macro magnifications (1 stop... maybe).

The 100L also has a somewhat more sophisticated focus limiter. Where the 100/2.8 USM's limiter has two zones, the 100L's has three.

If you opt for the Canon tripod mounting ring, you get to pay more for the 100L's Tripod Ring D, too. It's about $170. The 100/2.8's Tripod Ring B sells for about $140. (Third party tripod rings for either one are $40 to $50.)

Oh, and for the extra $350 (with current rebate offers), with the 100L you get a red stripe, too.

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Since I already also own the 85mm I really only use the 100mm for bugs and insects or flowers. It sounds like I should save the $400 or so and just keep what I have.


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Oct 10, 2013 17:20 |  #7

The non-L also doesn't look as pretty :)


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Oct 10, 2013 17:50 |  #8

get the non-L lens and the 100L mug. tell people you converted the L into a mug. :)

i love my 100L and saw wonderful photos of non-L. Generally very well discussed on nonL and L.


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Oct 10, 2013 18:44 |  #9

I look at both the non-L and L 100 macro threads here. Great shots on both threads. I got the L because I'm an old guy and the IS is a plus for me.


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Oct 10, 2013 18:59 |  #10

The 100L also has a focus limit switch, but if all you shoot is bugs and flowers it's just another thing you don't need.

I didn't anything mentioned about weather sealing either, which is something that might be desirable for bugs and flowers.




  
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Oct 10, 2013 18:59 as a reply to  @ Phoenixkh's post |  #11

I wrote this for another thread -

The IQ and sharpness are very close (possibly a slight edge to the L). The IS is nice. I use the IS more for non-macro, but it is still useful for macro. So the L is a much nicer lens (IMO) than the non-Ls, but not necessarily a needed upgrade.

It was easier for me to justify. I had (have as I have not got rid of it yet) the original non-USM 100mm macro. So I got faster AF with the USM. The ability to use a tripod collar (that the original wouldn't do) was something I wanted (the collar was bought in less than a week of owning the L). I get weather resistance. I also had the money, so I could afford it (plus I got a good deal). I'm getting older, so IS helps more than I'd like to admit. IS is used more on non-macro shots as I like a tripod and/or flash for macro shooting.

If I had the USM non-L version (which takes a tripod collar), I might not have upgraded.

If someone doesn't have a macro lens and wants one and has the money, get the L. Otherwise either of the two non-Ls are still fantastic lenses.

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I assume you have the USM-non-L. The only real benefits of the L are IS, weather resistance, slightly better in build, and slightly better IQ (which is debatable).


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Oct 10, 2013 20:02 |  #12

lovemyram4x4 wrote in post #16361610 (external link)
The 100L also has a focus limit switch, but if all you shoot is bugs and flowers it's just another thing you don't need.

I didn't anything mentioned about weather sealing either, which is something that might be desirable for bugs and flowers.

Weather sealing was 90% of the reason I went with the L, IS was about 9% and the remaining 1% was the increased sharpness (the practical difference is minimal, but side by side in samples from reviews I could tell. MTF charts:rolleyes: back up the assertion).


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Oct 10, 2013 20:38 |  #13

Motor On wrote in post #16361732 (external link)
Weather sealing was 90% of the reason I went with the L, IS was about 9% and the remaining 1% was the increased sharpness (the practical difference is minimal, but side by side in samples from reviews I could tell. MTF charts:rolleyes: back up the assertion).

It was a big part of it for me as well(mostly because this is one of the lenses that is part of my underwater kit) but I'd about equal for IS(used quite often handheld) and focus limit(not always going to be used for macro). IQ was the same thing for me, OK technically it's there but not by enough to make any real difference in real world pictures and surely not worth the extra cost if you'd want/need any of the other bells and whistle you get with the L.




  
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Oct 10, 2013 22:10 as a reply to  @ lovemyram4x4's post |  #14

IS for hand held macro is great IMO. Maybe it is only 1 stop and you probably still need a fast SS (and probably a flash) for bugs and the like anyway, but I can actually get the focus point right where I want it. I use AF in Al Servo hand held at close to 1:1 and it works well. I'm too shaky to do this without IS.


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Oct 10, 2013 22:15 |  #15

Dmitriy wrote in post #16361237 (external link)
Image stabilization will be the primary advantage.

Exactly. No difference in image quality. The IS is a great feature if you shoot in low light




  
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