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Canon EF 35mm f/1.4L II

 
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Oct 13, 2013 06:02 |  #1

The empire strikes back? :D I guess it's safe to assume that the success of Sigma 35mm f/1.4 Art has triggered an earlier than planned release of the 35L II.

Patent: Canon EF 35mm f/1.4L II:

    Focal length f = 35.50mm
  • Fno. 1.45
  • Half angle ω = 31.36 °
  • Image height 21.64mm
  • The overall length of the lens 135.01mm
  • BF 38.56mm
  • 11 pieces Lens Construction 9 group
  • One piece of one aspherical surface
  • The effective diameter of the front lens 49.79mm


I am curious what is going to be the price for this monster and will it have IS? I'm going to guess the price will be well above 2000$ and that it won't have IS. It still seems to me that adding IS will degrade sharpness even if it's just going to be minimal degradation? And design seems oddly similar to 35mm f/1.4L: 11 elements / 9 groups compared to Sigma: 13 elements / 11 groups.

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http://egami.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2013-10-12 (external link)
http://www.canonrumors​.com …tent-canon-35mm-f1-4l-ii/ (external link)

Also other new patents from Canon: EF 14mm f/2.8 L III USM (?) and 24 f/2.8.

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Oct 13, 2013 06:25 |  #2

love my 35L...this would have to be something special to get me to upgrade. Not just sharpness wise either (my 35 is plenty sharp at 1.4)


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Oct 13, 2013 06:49 |  #3

rampanthamster wrote in post #16367111 (external link)
love my 35L...this would have to be something special to get me to upgrade. Not just sharpness wise either (my 35 is plenty sharp at 1.4)

You are right that the 35L is still an awesome lens. One of the fastest autofocus lenses I ever seen.

But I for one definately think the 35L is due for an optical update. It's 15 year old design is starting to show. There are several optically better 35mm lenses on the market, such as the Sigma 35/1.4, Zeiss Distagon 35/1.4 and the new Canon 35mm f2 IS. It would be pretty easy to bring the sharpness to competitors' level (or surpass them), improve for more pleasant bokeh (rounded apertude blades), and perhaps add IS - and voilà - we have a winner :). I just hope it's price won't reach astronomical figures.


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Oct 13, 2013 10:50 |  #4

Once I got my sigma, I knew it was a keeper. Nothing will convince me to upgrade, especially if the 'upgrade' is going to cost me north of 2 grand.


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Oct 13, 2013 11:26 |  #5

This is only a patent being filed, is it not? It certainly doesn't mean they are actually producing one.

I think this belongs in the lens rumors forum...


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Oct 13, 2013 11:30 |  #6

Wrong forum show us canons release statement then I'll believe it :)


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Oct 13, 2013 13:31 |  #7

Ups I apogolize, I didn't even know we had a lens rumors forum. Can Mods move this thread there?


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Oct 13, 2013 14:46 |  #8

The current Canon 35mm 1.4 certainly is an old design. When the Zeiss 35mm 1.4 came out, the reviewers said it was sharper than the Canon. Then when the Sigma 35mm 1.4 was released, reviewers said it was sharper than the Zeiss, so Canon has some catching up to do. One thing for sure, the new Canon will be at least double the price of the Sigma. Hopefully the IQ will be equal to the Sigma.




  
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Oct 13, 2013 15:11 |  #9

nightcat wrote in post #16367960 (external link)
One thing for sure, the new Canon will be at least double the price of the Sigma. Hopefully the IQ will be equal to the Sigma.

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Oct 13, 2013 15:15 |  #10

Given that the current 35L is $1329 usually, expect a 40-60% increase of cost for the mark II. So you are looking at $1850 to $2125 at launch.

When Canon does decide to announce this lens, expect six months before it is available. Given the trends of the past few big releases, expect a developmental announcement first.

I would expect the mark II to have weather sealing, improved optics and more plastic construction (like the 24-70 II, not always a bad thing). I don't think we will see IS. Updated to 8-blade or 9-blade rounded aperture.

I bet it will be a stellar lens, no doubt. I do love the current 35L though, so I would probably wait for rebates and/or refurbished lenses until I would upgrade. Save myself $400 or so!

And even though the Sigma is sharper, I still find the Canon a better lens for various reasons. Color rendering, AF accuracy, Canon support/service and better bokeh in most situations (less harsh).

Looking forward to it though. Hopefully it's not years out still.


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Oct 13, 2013 19:41 |  #11

Unlike the 85L, the 35L was never an exceptional lens - until the Sigma came along, it just happened to be the best AF-capable 35mm lens that could fit on the Canon mount.




  
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Oct 13, 2013 20:16 |  #12

Shadowblade wrote in post #16368523 (external link)
Unlike the 85L, the 35L was never an exceptional lens - until the Sigma came along, it just happened to be the best AF-capable 35mm lens that could fit on the Canon mount.

I think basically every 35mm f/1.4 out there is sharper than the Canon 35L at this point...the Nikon, the Sigma, the Zeiss...even the $400 Samyang.


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Oct 14, 2013 07:54 |  #13

Shadowblade wrote in post #16368523 (external link)
Unlike the 85L, the 35L was never an exceptional lens - until the Sigma came along, it just happened to be the best AF-capable 35mm lens that could fit on the Canon mount.

How is the 35L not an exceptional lens? Just based on sharpness alone? There are many factors that make a lens good or bad.

While the 35L may not be the sharpest 35mm available, there is no better option at the moment for canon mount. The Zeiss and Nikon lack AF capability. So does the Samyang along with being almost all plastic internally. The sigma is the best option, but the AF haa issues in indoor lighting and with distance (so many people report these issues, not isolated ). The Canon is the best option if you need a well built, time tested lens that can AF with great accuracy. Sure, optically it may be the weakest. But even being the weakest, it still is damn good even at f/1.4.

I had the Sigma for two months or so. Used it for a trip and took thousands of photos with it in a wide variety of consitions. When light was good and AF nailed it, the image is stunning. No question. But the lens suffered in lower and artificial light.

Looking back through my images, although the sharpness is clearly there... The images from the 35L just look better. I do love both options (especially the sigma sharpness ) but at least I can depend on the Canon. I just had too many issue with the Sigma between two copies. I lost motivation to try a third.

But yes, if you could do without AF, there are better options. The sigma is there if you want to save some money, have an optically sharper lens, but deal with lackluster AF (although the AF performed well in good light). But the Canon IMO remains the best option overall and is still a very impressive lens. For being as old as it is, I still think it is one of the best primes next to the 135L.


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Dec 18, 2013 14:02 |  #14

2014 might be the year for the 35L Mark II, but I've been hearing that "its right around the corner" for about 5 years now. Meanwhile, I've been enjoying the heck out of my 35L...

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Dec 19, 2013 13:41 |  #15

bps wrote in post #16537433 (external link)
2014 might be the year for the 35L Mark II, but I've been hearing that "its right around the corner" for about 5 years now. Meanwhile, I've been enjoying the heck out of my 35L...

Bryan

Just like the 100-400L II? That's been "totally coming out in just a second" for a decade...




  
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