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1D Mk3 against the 7D in Low Light

 
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Oct 16, 2013 02:14 |  #1

I shoot mainly motorsport and have been using a 7D with various L glass with great success and now I have bought a 2nd hand 1D mk3 to use as either the main camera or a back up .

Will the 1D be better in low light with say a 70-200L 2.8 against the 7 also I have been plodding through the instructions and I thought I read that when you fit L series fast glass the camera changes the auto focus points to provide more options (I may be totally wrong on this statement):rolleyes:


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Oct 16, 2013 04:58 |  #2

I'm in a similar position and just got a 1d3 as I was completely underwhelmed with the 7d. However I needed to keep my 7d as I have it set up for underwater use and its fine at lower ISO's.

In my limited experience, the 1d3 is much better, lower noise at higer ISO and over the winter months, I really don't see me using my 7d too much. It's sharper, gives more detail, and as long as I don't need to crop too much the available resolution is fine.

I've not had chance to really test the AF yet so can't really help with that one just yet


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Oct 16, 2013 05:05 |  #3

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I'm in a similar position and just got a 1d3 as I was completely underwhelmed with the 7d. However I needed to keep my 7d as I have it set up for underwater use and its fine at lower ISO's.

In my limited experience, the 1d3 is much better, lower noise at higer ISO and over the winter months, I really don't see me using my 7d too much. It's sharper, gives more detail, and as long as I don't need to crop too much the available resolution is fine.

I've not had chance to really test the AF yet so can't really help with that one just yet


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I have been happy with my 7D the burst rate for high speed shooting has been ok :) It was the full frame shooting that got my attention But not sure what advantage that is going to give me ?

Does it allow more light onto the sensor so better pictures in low light ??


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Oct 16, 2013 05:12 |  #4

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I have been happy with my 7D the burst rate for high speed shooting has been ok :) It was the full frame shooting that got my attention But not sure what advantage that is going to give me ?

Does it allow more light onto the sensor so better pictures in low light ??

The 1D3 isn't a full frame body, it's a crop, just not cropped as much as the 7D.


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Oct 16, 2013 05:19 |  #5

pooley wrote in post #16374931 (external link)
I'm in a similar position and just got a 1d3 as I was completely underwhelmed with the 7d. However I needed to keep my 7d as I have it set up for underwater use and its fine at lower ISO's.

In my limited experience, the 1d3 is much better, lower noise at higer ISO and over the winter months, I really don't see me using my 7d too much. It's sharper, gives more detail, and as long as I don't need to crop too much the available resolution is fine.

I've not had chance to really test the AF yet so can't really help with that one just yet

Perhaps your copy of the 7d exhibits that, but that most likely isn't the norm. Click my mini reviews link to find the 7d vs 1d3 that I posted.


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Oct 16, 2013 05:48 |  #6

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The 1D3 isn't a full frame body, it's a crop, just not cropped as much as the 7D.

So am I right to say then you get most of the length out of you lens unlike full frame ??


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Oct 16, 2013 05:54 |  #7

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So am I right to say then you get most of the length out of you lens unlike full frame ??

Apparent field of view will be narrower, just not as narrow as a 1.6 crop.

Getting the 'most' length out of a lens depends what body you are comparing to.


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Oct 16, 2013 05:58 |  #8

nellyle wrote in post #16374985 (external link)
Apparent field of view will be narrower, just not as narrow as a 1.6 crop.

Getting the 'most' length out of a lens depends what body you are comparing to.

Compare with the 7D but will the 1D give you more scope in low light


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Oct 16, 2013 06:08 |  #9

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Perhaps your copy of the 7d exhibits that, but that most likely isn't the norm. Click my mini reviews link to find the 7d vs 1d3 that I posted.

I've certainly considered that. I'm not a newcomer to photography, I spent most of the 90's shooting sports and press for a living, so am reasonably confident it's not all down to poor technique on my part. All I know is I was very pleasantly surprised at the IQ improvement I got with my 1d3. I've read numerous comparisons between the 2, and they all seem to differ in their conclusions.


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Oct 16, 2013 08:38 |  #10

In my experience the 1Dmk3 gives better iq in low light as long as you don't have to crop the image.




  
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Oct 16, 2013 09:42 |  #11

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I've certainly considered that. I'm not a newcomer to photography, I spent most of the 90's shooting sports and press for a living, so am reasonably confident it's not all down to poor technique on my part. All I know is I was very pleasantly surprised at the IQ improvement I got with my 1d3. I've read numerous comparisons between the 2, and they all seem to differ in their conclusions.

I only look at comparisons when almost all factors are identical, exposure and glass and identical scene being shot. Anything else just creates more of an opinion than a good objective review. I certainly appreciate your length of photographic experience and vast film experience, but I am not sure any of that really matters when doing a direct comparison side by side using really high ISO levels with digital cameras. The 1D3 certainly can be a stronger contender than the 7D in some matters, but there isn't much difference at ISO 6400, and if you crop the 1D3 up to the 7D resolution, your results will certainly be worse. They are more "close" than one is "much better" than the other.

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Oct 16, 2013 09:49 |  #12

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In my experience the 1Dmk3 gives better iq in low light as long as you don't have to crop the image.

The 1D3 certainly acquires AI Servo AF lock faster and more consistently than the 7D in many low light situations.


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Oct 16, 2013 10:26 |  #13

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The 1D3 certainly acquires AI Servo AF lock faster and more consistently than the 7D in many low light situations.


So in a Nutshell as they say;) the 1D is a better body to use than the 7D including tracking a moving target while panning at high speed ?


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Oct 17, 2013 06:06 |  #14

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So in a Nutshell as they say;) the 1D is a better body to use than the 7D including tracking a moving target while panning at high speed ?

most pro motorsport photographers I know (eg at BTCC events here in the uk) us the 1d3 not the 7d if thats any help
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Oct 17, 2013 06:47 |  #15

TeamSpeed wrote in post #16375437 (external link)
The 1D3 certainly acquires AI Servo AF lock faster and more consistently than the 7D in many low light situations.

That has been my experience too, not too mention that the 7D struggles with FPS in low light.




  
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