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Oct 18, 2013 05:59 |  #1

Hi

I have recently converted to Canon from a life long Pentax obsession. I used to have a K-5 and now have a 550D. The problem being I am primarily a macro photographer and I am seriously missing my SMC Pentax DA 35mm F2.8 Macro Limited lens.

I almost purchased a Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro USM but got messed around by the company I bought it from (Simply Electronics, after a month of not sending will now not give me a refund, beware!) and it started putting doubts in my head. I don't have many camera shops in the area to go and look at first hand so I was hoping some kind people here could give me some tips. Maybe help me find a macro that could compare or beat the Pentax lens?

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Oct 18, 2013 05:59 |  #2

Just to say money is no object when it comes to the lens, but obviously I do not want to spend out if I really don't have to!




  
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Oct 18, 2013 06:13 |  #3

Is it the 1:1 macro capability you miss or the 35mm capability? 35mm 1:1 macro seems a bit odd as the minimum working distance must have been almost nothing.

Anyway, the 60mm macro (also capable of 1:1) is a really nice lens and reasonable priced. Very sharp in the center. The 100mm macro you were looking at was probably the gold standard for Canon macros until the 100mmL macro came out. It is very sharp, offers very comfortable working distance and really good in the corners. It's ashamed you bought it at a scam site like Simply Electronics. From there comes the 100L and the 180L. Both top notch lenses but both rather expensive.


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Oct 18, 2013 06:44 |  #4

Thanks JJ, I have been eyeing up that 60mm today. I do miss the 1:1 macro much more then the 35mm part of the lens (there were times taking liquid shots when I was glad the lens was waterproof!) but I found the 100mm lens a bit too far when I borrowed one for the Pentax a while back. I had to stand too far away really. Hopefully I can find somewhere to hire the 60mm while I wait for my refund!




  
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Oct 18, 2013 07:06 |  #5

Actually I have been looking at the Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro too. Does anyone have a first hand experience with either?




  
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Oct 18, 2013 07:16 |  #6

shellystillphotography wrote in post #16380058 (external link)
Actually I have been looking at the Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro too. Does anyone have a first hand experience with either?

The MPE-65 is an outstanding macro. In a totally different league. It is a very specialized lens capable of macro only. The farthers you can get is 1:1 and it goes closer from there. If your into macro, this is the lens to get.

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Oct 18, 2013 07:26 |  #7

I have the T2i as well. I have the 50mm reversed mounted onto 100mm macro and here is the outcome.

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Oct 18, 2013 07:47 |  #8

shellystillphotography wrote in post #16380058 (external link)
Actually I have been looking at the Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro too. Does anyone have a first hand experience with either?

That one is supposedly (I've never used it) extremely hard to use. Prepare to invest in specialized macro tripods and lighting and focus stacking software if you want to use it. Also, its minimum magnification is 1:1 which, on a crop body will make it impossible to photograph subjects larger than a fingernail.


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Oct 18, 2013 08:18 |  #9

shellystillphotography wrote in post #16380027 (external link)
Thanks JJ, I have been eyeing up that 60mm today. I do miss the 1:1 macro much more then the 35mm part of the lens (there were times taking liquid shots when I was glad the lens was waterproof!) but I found the 100mm lens a bit too far when I borrowed one for the Pentax a while back. I had to stand too far away really. Hopefully I can find somewhere to hire the 60mm while I wait for my refund!

shellystillphotography wrote in post #16380058 (external link)
Actually I have been looking at the Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro too. Does anyone have a first hand experience with either?

Since I'm not primarily a macro shooter, I've never even researched the MPE, but I have both the 60mm macro and the 100 L IS Macro, and both are outstanding lenses. Despite what some say, the IS is somewhat useful for macro on static subjects, and it's very useful for longer range shots. You don't have to get as close to your subject as with the 60mm, but the 60 is smaller and lighter while still giving excellent results. The 60mm also makes a very nice portrait lens with it's 96mm full frame equivalence.


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Oct 18, 2013 08:37 |  #10

I have 3 macro lenses, including the Tokina 35 F2.8 (the same optically as the Pentax), the Sigma 50 F2.8, and the Canon 100 non-L. All are sharp, but I really like the Tokina. It can be used as a normal lens on a crop camera, gives you very good color, and good macro performance on flowers and some bugs. It is discontinued, but you might be able to find one used. I paid $300 for it new, and vendors overseas are charging crazy prices for it on Amazon.
If I were more into macro, I might use the 100 mm lens more. It handles well and the optics are great. If starting out right now, I would take a hard look at the 60 mm Canon, the 70 mm Sigma, and the longer Canon. My anticipated subjects would dictate my choice.




  
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Oct 18, 2013 09:32 |  #11

Thanks everyone for your response, finding the MPE-65 superb from the photos above, but could be a bit too restrictive for my sort of work. Also the warning with crop camera and this lens was something I didn't know about. Looks like it really is a toss up between 60mm macro and the 100 L IS Macro. Really appreciate all the info!




  
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Oct 18, 2013 09:57 |  #12

I have the MP E 65 and while there is a steep learning curve there are many users that get excellent results. What you have to be aware of before you buy this lens is that you cannot photograph anything larger then one to one. Your focusing is manual, you do it by rocking the camera back and forth. Your focusing range is four inches at one to one down to one inch at 5X. A strobe setup of some sort is a necessity with this lens. The viewfinder of your camera gets progressivly darker as you approach 5 X and is very dark at 5X magnification. Depth of field is almost non existent at high magnification. Keep in mind that you won't be able to shoot anything above a one to one ratio therefore for that reason and the reasons stated above I do not recommend this as your only macro lens. Generally speaking a 100mm macro lens is a good lens to work with. It doesn't have the darkening problem and is allot easier to keep steady. There are no bad macro lenses, and brand will give you good results. I would like to add that the crop camera warning regarding the MP E65 is ridiculous, I use mine on a 7D quite often and can definitely shoot images bigger then a fingernail


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Oct 18, 2013 10:20 |  #13

Hard to go wrong with the 60 macro. It's tailor-made for crop cameras and gives outstanding results.


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Oct 18, 2013 10:45 as a reply to  @ ceegee's post |  #14

Some serious thinking over the weekend for me then! Thank you for the info




  
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Oct 18, 2013 10:47 |  #15

shellystillphotography wrote in post #16380414 (external link)
Thanks everyone for your response, finding the MPE-65 superb from the photos above, but could be a bit too restrictive for my sort of work. Also the warning with crop camera and this lens was something I didn't know about. Looks like it really is a toss up between 60mm macro and the 100 L IS Macro. Really appreciate all the info!

There is also the Sigma 70mm f2.8 Macro. Really sharp. Only downside is the AF is pretty slow, but I don't think it matters for macro work. I definitely recommend the 100mm IS L. It's very versatile. I use it for portraits more often than the 135mm. The IS is great if you don't want to lug around a tripod all day. I can consistently get 1/15th no problem. 1/10th about half of the time. 1/6th if I focus on my breathing and hold technique. The 180mm f3.5 in my opinion is not worth it. I found it too unwieldy. Definitely require a tripod for it to be effective. At that point, I'd rather have the 65MPE.




  
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