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Oct 16, 2013 14:52 |  #1

My first shoot from model mayhem, i'm looking for some constructive criticism, anything I should change before turning them in to her? Should they be more post processed?

Also, which of these 2 edits are better?

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I'm nervous about if they are good enough and would benefit my portfolio or not, so any comments at all about editing/filters or if I got the exposure/contrast wrong, anything at all is extremely helpful.


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Oct 16, 2013 15:50 |  #2

Just my noob opinion but the ones without the blown out sky look best. But watch your background (fence coming out of her head etc...).




  
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Oct 16, 2013 15:57 |  #3

Agreed blown out sky and watch the backgrounds. Of the two edits, the one on the right for sure, it's much warmer, which might not be considered "correct" but it looks better to most people as most people prefer a warmer look. And maybe darken the blacks just a touch more on each! But they look very very good!




  
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Oct 16, 2013 16:15 |  #4

WB seems pretty consistant! Exposure looks pretty good too, but then again my monitor here at work isn't calibrated. I will say though that her face looks a bit dark in the last image. Have to get a little more light on her face, but again. As already mentioned have to watch the blown out sky.

Love the setting, and the background look good to me. Where were these shot?

And as a final note...gorgeous model!


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Oct 16, 2013 17:28 |  #5

It appears to me that you are making global adjustments to your images which result in the model being exposed mostly correctly but the backgrounds way overexposed. All of the posted images have over-exposed backgrounds; the only one that is mostly correct is IMG_8507 and even then the top of the deck railing and the table top are overexposed. You need to learn how to use an image editor and layer masking to do selective editing rather than global edits.

I looked at IMG_8686 in full view and it appears that there are animal droppings all over the deck and especially just to the right of her shoes.

Were any of these image shot with a flash?


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Oct 16, 2013 17:35 |  #6

PixelMagic wrote in post #16376476 (external link)
It appears to me that you are making global adjustments ...

Yep. You have to get out of the LR, I'm afraid.

The "IMG_8507-1a b" and the last one are the winners, in my opinion.

Just take your time, mate - you have a gorgeous stuff there.


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Oct 18, 2013 11:53 as a reply to  @ olafs osh's post |  #7

i think it should be possible to replace the over exposed sky with the one that
blend with the scene. here is one attempt.


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Oct 18, 2013 17:19 |  #8

I couldn't recover the sky from the other photos. That day was foggy and flat since it was pre-rain clouds. The shots where there is clouds and blue sky are the only ones I managed to edit in the sky because the clouds were kind enough to move for those shots lol.

Here is what the image looks like if I try to bring out the sky exactly how I did it for the other shots with the nice sky.

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And this is the kind of edit I ended up going for with all the images, a little warmer, brighter, and a bit more saturated in the background.

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Thanks everyone for your comments, wish I could have had sky in all of them:confused:. Hopefully there;s better weather next time! :)


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Oct 18, 2013 17:21 |  #9

rivas8409 wrote in post #16376324 (external link)
WB seems pretty consistant! Exposure looks pretty good too, but then again my monitor here at work isn't calibrated. I will say though that her face looks a bit dark in the last image. Have to get a little more light on her face, but again. As already mentioned have to watch the blown out sky.

Love the setting, and the background look good to me. Where were these shot?

And as a final note...gorgeous model!

I added a bit more light to her face on that one, thanks for pointing that out for me, I didn't notice so much :).

These were shot at Oso Flaco lake trail in the central coast. It's a trail that leads to the beach, but we unfortunately didn't make it to the beach because it was starting to drizzle.



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Oct 18, 2013 17:29 |  #10

PixelMagic wrote in post #16376476 (external link)
It appears to me that you are making global adjustments to your images which result in the model being exposed mostly correctly but the backgrounds way overexposed. All of the posted images have over-exposed backgrounds; the only one that is mostly correct is IMG_8507 and even then the top of the deck railing and the table top are overexposed. You need to learn how to use an image editor and layer masking to do selective editing rather than global edits.

I looked at IMG_8686 in full view and it appears that there are animal droppings all over the deck and especially just to the right of her shoes.

Were any of these image shot with a flash?

I only shot a few with flash. It was my first time using flash on a shoot, even though I practiced before the shoot I still felt uncomfortable and ended up mostly using natural light and a reflector.
From the photos in this thread, IMG_8371-1a , is the only one I shot with flash, then just about 2-3 others on my computer.

And good call, I edited out those droppings. On some of the images I purposely over-exposed the background because I thought it gave it a softer look :confused:, I didn't think I over-exposed the others too much (except the sky, which was like that in camera). This is why I bought some umbrellas to use with my flashes so I could learn to expose both subject and background appropriately, but I still feel very uncomfortable using it because I can't seem to get it right, ever.



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Oct 18, 2013 17:31 |  #11

nittaya wrote in post #16380755 (external link)
i think it should be possible to replace the over exposed sky with the one that
blend with the scene. here is one attempt.

That looks nice! So is that sky from a different image? I don't know how you did it to blend nicely with the edges of the background, I have failed at that the last time I attempted it.



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Oct 18, 2013 18:58 as a reply to  @ Naraly's post |  #12

one edit on 8686. For lighting you can use shoot through umbrella . as long as it is not windy
outside it is very easy to use it, cost less , easy to carry and easy to work with . with shoot
through umbrellas you get good result and post processing to enhance the pictures would be
also minimum.


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Oct 18, 2013 19:13 as a reply to  @ nittaya's post |  #13

you can use quick selection tool or any other method such as brush tool for making a mask. once you put the
mask , the new sky would look very unnatural similar to your effort of replacing the sky. the trick is to guassian blur the mask
usually heavily. and then use very soft brush for fine tuning. this trick works fine when you want to replace the sky.
it does not take much time it took me just a minute or two.




  
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Oct 19, 2013 14:13 |  #14

Here's my attempt...

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Oct 28, 2013 06:59 |  #15

The above image is a example of where a dash of fill flash does wonders, not only to allow for dropping the ambient by 1/3, but get some more light on the face, especially the eyes.


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