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Oct 17, 2013 18:22 |  #91

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The people who need ultra-high resolution and dynamic range generally aren't the same people who need gripped bodies...

I know.

But all rumors about the high res sensor are pointing towards a 1D body, and It wouldn't surprise me if it turns out that way.


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Oct 17, 2013 19:23 |  #92

Canon + Sony = CaSony. I'm so tempted to order the A7r but, I want to see samples with the EF adapter. :)




  
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Oct 17, 2013 19:26 |  #93

Droooling over A7r with some nice M-glass :-)


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Oct 18, 2013 04:33 |  #94

jdizzle wrote in post #16379111 (external link)
Canon + Sony = CaSony. I'm so tempted to order the A7r but, I want to see samples with the EF adapter. :)

Fred Miranda has preordered the A7R and bought the metabones adapter. He said that he'll post a review of the A7R and how well works with all of Canon's top lenses, including the 17mm and 24mm TS-E.




  
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Oct 18, 2013 08:05 |  #95

jdizzle wrote in post #16379111 (external link)
Canon + Sony = CaSony. I'm so tempted to order the A7r but, I want to see samples with the EF adapter. :)

JD How about the ability to use Leica M glass? The 50 Cron APO or the .95 nocti or even the 35 lux FLE or 90 cron?

I would also like to see how things work with the adapter.

Maybe I get this as the backup to the Leica M for my professional work?




  
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Oct 18, 2013 21:37 as a reply to  @ airfrogusmc's post |  #96

First big review is up. Not the most detailed review I've ever seen, but they had some interesting stuff to say.

http://www.photoreview​.com.au …k-sony-ilc-a7#Full_Review (external link)

Looking good. However, I'm still waiting for DPreview.


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Oct 18, 2013 23:44 |  #97

Osiriz wrote in post #16379885 (external link)
Fred Miranda has preordered the A7R and bought the metabones adapter. He said that he'll post a review of the A7R and how well works with all of Canon's top lenses, including the 17mm and 24mm TS-E.

I read that Fred ordered the whole kit with grip! :) My main concern is with the adapter and 17 TS-E. I want to be able to fully shift without vignetting. :)

airfrogusmc wrote in post #16380188 (external link)
JD How about the ability to use Leica M glass? The 50 Cron APO or the .95 nocti or even the 35 lux FLE or 90 cron?

I would also like to see how things work with the adapter.

Maybe I get this as the backup to the Leica M for my professional work?

There is a Leica adapter. :)




  
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Oct 19, 2013 01:34 |  #98

What a product by Sony! Kudos!

It will devastate the Canon DSLR body division but actually make the Canon lens division even stronger since now they can be used in other systems outside of the Canon ecosystem.


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Oct 19, 2013 08:05 |  #99

Osiriz wrote in post #16379885 (external link)
Fred Miranda has preordered the A7R and bought the metabones adapter. He said that he'll post a review of the A7R and how well works with all of Canon's top lenses, including the 17mm and 24mm TS-E.

jdizzle wrote in post #16382129 (external link)
I read that Fred ordered the whole kit with grip! :) My main concern is with the adapter and 17 TS-E. I want to be able to fully shift without vignetting. :)

Very curious here about those particular combinations too - I await the results with much anticipation. A7R would make a lot of sense for my architecture/interiors​/landscape shoots as autofocus speed is a non-issue but IQ is.

Exciting new development. Why can't Canon swallow the pride, grovel to Sony and begin buying their sensors too (like Nikon)?



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Oct 19, 2013 09:23 |  #100

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Very curious here about those particular combinations too - I await the results with much anticipation. A7R would make a lot of sense for my architecture/interiors​/landscape shoots as autofocus speed is a non-issue but IQ is.

Exciting new development. Why can't Canon swallow the pride, grovel to Sony and begin buying their sensors too (like Nikon)?

One company having a monopoly over any technology is a lose for everyone. I sincerely hope that Canon never stops innovating their own products. Them having the best stuff around for so long was what caused their slow down in sensor tech in the first place, give them another year or two, they'll catch up and looking at the past, probably exceed Sony anyway (we all hope, if their smart even Sony and Nikon users will hope so).


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Oct 19, 2013 10:29 |  #101

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One company having a monopoly over any technology is a lose for everyone. I sincerely hope that Canon never stops innovating their own products. Them having the best stuff around for so long was what caused their slow down in sensor tech in the first place, give them another year or two, they'll catch up and looking at the past, probably exceed Sony anyway (we all hope, if their smart even Sony and Nikon users will hope so).

I do feel Canon is working on something. It may be a few years and right now they are only showing their products for video. Like their new security sensors that have recorded fire flys in pitch black.

They know what they are doing. It'll come eventually. I have no issues with their current FF sensors.


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Oct 19, 2013 10:34 |  #102

jdizzle wrote in post #16382129 (external link)
I read that Fred ordered the whole kit with grip! :) My main concern is with the adapter and 17 TS-E. I want to be able to fully shift without vignetting. :)


There is a Leica adapter. :)

Waiting to see how the adapter works. Could be some vignetting issues with M lenses to.

JD don't you have a set up that you don't need to worry about any of that with? ;):D




  
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Oct 19, 2013 10:59 |  #103

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #16382729 (external link)
One company having a monopoly over any technology is a lose for everyone. I sincerely hope that Canon never stops innovating their own products. Them having the best stuff around for so long was what caused their slow down in sensor tech in the first place, give them another year or two, they'll catch up and looking at the past, probably exceed Sony anyway (we all hope, if their smart even Sony and Nikon users will hope so).

Good point. Competition is good. A7R would be a good equipment to have until Canon develops a sensor that would (hopefully) leapfrog current technology with a competitive price. I hear some voices willing to jump ship completely but for me, the three TS-E lenses I have are major investments and there are simply no equals in their class. For the immediate future A7R + TS-E lenses is a win-win combination for me and I am eagerly awaiting real field test reviews to come out (Fred Miranda, i.e.).



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Oct 20, 2013 01:16 |  #104

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Good point. Competition is good. A7R would be a good equipment to have until Canon develops a sensor that would (hopefully) leapfrog current technology with a competitive price. I hear some voices willing to jump ship completely but for me, the three TS-E lenses I have are major investments and there are simply no equals in their class. For the immediate future A7R + TS-E lenses is a win-win combination for me and I am eagerly awaiting real field test reviews to come out (Fred Miranda, i.e.).

Most definitely ;)

I'm strongly considering picking up one of these bodies as well, probably not for a good while though. When I initially saw it I was super excited, but after thinking about it, there's really nothing I dislike about my 6D that the a7 would better me for (other than size), so no need to make the hop yet :)


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Oct 20, 2013 02:13 |  #105

I'm waiting to hear how the auto focus is. I'm an RX1 owner and while the high ISO processing is great, the AF in non-perfect light is bad, and awful in low light. Enough to make me not want to bother sometimes. If the AF is improved, I'll sell my RX1 and hopefully get the A7r + lens combo for not too much more. Still not sure though. Not really shooting digital that much these days. If there's a Leica M-mount adapter, then I may not bother with any of the native lenses assuming manual focus is intuitive.




  
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