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Oct 19, 2013 16:40 as a reply to  @ post 16383373 |  #241

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Oct 19, 2013 21:55 |  #242

Going to have to rent the A7R just to satisfy my curiosity.

Are there are disadvantages of using Canon EF lenses with the converter?


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Oct 20, 2013 05:54 |  #243

The vid from camerastore tv said the AF is like using liveview AF? In other words slow.
It wouldn't matter if you were shooting landscapes on a tripod, but for normal shooting? I want to see the reviews with the metabones first (is that the only working canon adapter?)


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Oct 20, 2013 06:02 |  #244

reprazent wrote in post #16384461 (external link)
The vid from camerastore tv said the AF is like using liveview AF? In other words slow.
It wouldn't matter if you were shooting landscapes on a tripod, but for normal shooting? I want to see the reviews with the metabones first (is that the only working canon adapter?)

This kind of AF is more than adequate for landscapes, studio, portraits, architecture, urban photography, still life, fine arts, macro work, e.t.c, e.t.c.

What is this "normal shooting" you speak of? Sports, dogs and kids who had too much coffee? ;)

Truth is that most photography doesn't really require state of the art AF with one gazillion lightning fast focus points.




  
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Oct 20, 2013 06:13 |  #245

As long as the AF is accurate and faster than the 85L II (lol), I'll be more than happy.


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Oct 20, 2013 06:36 |  #246

Osiriz wrote in post #16384470 (external link)
Truth is that most photography doesn't really require state of the art AF with one gazillion lightning fast focus points.

The truth is that you must understand that not everyone shoots static objects only. Nobody expects lightning fast AF speeds or flawless tracking capability, but if the adapter+canon lenses take 1-2 seconds to AF, and the native FE or 3rdparty lenses are falling behind schedule, then the A7 is not the camera for me.


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Oct 20, 2013 08:06 |  #247

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Oct 20, 2013 20:17 |  #248

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #16125489 (external link)
Priced at over $3K? And it's comparable to the 1/10th cost M?

Not $3K, A7 is 1700usd and A7R is 2300usd.




  
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Oct 21, 2013 00:12 |  #249

I dunno, it's not really that small once you add a lens.

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Oct 21, 2013 05:04 |  #250

tkbslc wrote in post #16386474 (external link)
I dunno, it's not really that small once you add a lens.

Not surprising considering it's full frame, the only place Sony can save in size compared to DSLR lenses is in the shorter flange distance, and it'll mostly apply to lenses under 50mm.

Doesn't change the fact that it's tiny and weighs 465g with card and battery, vs 1000g for a D800E w/card and battery, so the body itself is always going to be smaller regardless of lens.


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Oct 21, 2013 05:54 |  #251

I feel like I'm starting to sound like some secret Sony marketing guy here, but..

As I wrote in another thread, the main excitement for us Canonites is the fabulous sensor. After a long wait we are finally able to use our EF-glass on a high resolution / high DR sensor, that perhaps even trumps the IQ of the D800E. I think this is what most people are excited about. The smaller size and weight is truly just a bonus.

And no matter how you twist it, the camera is very small and light in comparison to Canon's offerings.
The 5D3 (950g) 6D (770g) are substantially bigger and heavier than the Sony A7R (475g).. The 5D3 is 100% heavier than the Sony A7R.




  
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Oct 21, 2013 06:29 |  #252

Osiriz wrote in post #16386775 (external link)
I feel like I'm starting to sound like some secret Sony marketing guy here, but...

secret?
I hardly think so... :lol:


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Oct 21, 2013 06:41 |  #253

Osiriz wrote in post #16386775 (external link)
I feel like I'm starting to sound like some secret Sony marketing guy here, but..
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dude, Sony is giving you a special marketing bonus!

about that Sony 'responsive AF' with the adapter ..... ugh ugly !




  
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Oct 21, 2013 07:36 |  #254

Osiriz wrote in post #16386775 (external link)
I feel like I'm starting to sound like some secret Sony marketing guy here, but..

Not at all, it's no accident there are half a dozen threads about this camera on a Canon board; it's the the inexpensive, compact, 36mp, 14-stop DR solution that Canon users have been waiting for.

Even if Canon announces a 16-stop, 46mp body next year or something, you can bet on a few things:
1. It's going to cost way more than $2,300
2. It'll be back-ordered to oblivion
3. Likely to be big and heavy
4. You could have been shooting the A7r instead of waiting
5. If you do switch back to a high-res Canon, you won't have lost much.


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Oct 21, 2013 07:57 |  #255

904 grams vs 1370 grams

755 grams vs 1060 grams

594 grams vs 900 grams

I say there is quite a significant weight difference. Considering a VERY limited arsenal of lenses. Currently, I am ok with my current setup of the 6D weight wise, but I do carry less on trips where I'd like to have more.

With the 6D, I'm confident that the tracking is much better if I use center point, but I'de rather have the outer point accuracy of contrast detect :(

on the plus side, the sony 55 1.8 looks like it could be a killer lens, but being 1.8, it's just not a premium lens. Another positive note is that if third party manufacturers decided to make lenses for the sony system, they'de likely focus just as accurate as OEM. a smaller 50 ART, 85 ART, and 135 ART, and I'de be in ;)


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