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Best non-L primes? looking for a 1-2 lens combo

 
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Oct 16, 2013 09:23 |  #16

I'm in much support of the 35/1.4 and 85-100/1.8-2.0 combo. From my experience quality of the final image will be stunning, as well as the wallet won't be hit that hard. It gives you a nice flexibility to work with variety of lighting conditions, forces you to go away from the zoom mentality (better compositions). It is by far the best compromise and if you are still itching for a 50mm, you can always pick up a used, sharp copy under $100.

On my 6d my favourite go to lens in order are 35 1.4 (Rokinon), EF 50 1.8, 70-200 2.8 IS. My normal length 24-70 just sits around gathering dust being only used as a backup.

Of course this is just my opinion and I am in no position to say that 24-70 is a bad lens but I find that my favourite images more often than not come from the primes. Just 2 c.


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Oct 16, 2013 09:24 |  #17

you can pick up a used 24-105 for $650 and a canon 50mm 1.8 for $80 :) or 1.4 for $280


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Oct 16, 2013 10:43 as a reply to  @ eddie3dfx's post |  #18

In my film days, I used 3 primes only and they covered everything for me. In the order of usage, they were:

35mm
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50mm

In the range of f1.4 to f2.8




  
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Oct 16, 2013 15:30 |  #19

AliZaman wrote in post #16374625 (external link)
Hey guys, after stepping back from shooting professionally, i sadly can't justify the cost of L series lenses for personal use anymore. I'm looking at getting a reasonable combo of lenses that i could get for under $400 each for my 5d2. I know i want a 50mm and i want to supplement that with another lens.

So, what would you guys recommend for the 50mm? Canon 1.4 or Sigma 1.4 in terms of sharpness and bokeh?

as for the 2nd lens, im open to suggestions from you folks. the 50 will handle most of my walk-around/street photography, so im really not looking for any specific focal length. What non-L lenses do you love to use?

I'm pretty happy with my Sigma 50mm f/1.4. Supposedly it is sharper than the Canon at wider apertures (up to f/4 or so). The Canon is both cheaper and lighter. There are some complaints about the AF of both lenses. Seems to be they're both good choices.

As for a second prime, maybe pairing a 100mm lens with that 50 would make sense. Some people will suggest the Canon 100mm f/2.0, but how about the 100mm f/2.8 macro? That way you get both a useful focal length and the ability to get in really close every now and then. While it's not an extremely fast prime it is one stop faster than your 24-105. They can be purchased used for about $400.




  
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Oct 16, 2013 15:41 |  #20

2 primes only, I'd go with the 28mm f/1.8 and the 85mm f/1.8.

50mm, where do you fit it if you only have 2 primes. Plus the quality is questionable on the EF 1.4. The Sigma is a lottery. The other decent options don't have AF.


My imagine composition sucks. I need a heavier lens.

  
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Oct 17, 2013 00:37 |  #21

in2fx wrote in post #16374740 (external link)
EF 50 f/1.4 and the EF 100 f/2.8 are my favourite non L prime lenses


Exactly the same for me, although I am looking at something in the 24mm range as well.


Canon 40D, 5DII, 5DIII, G9,G11,S100,G1X, Canon lenses 600mmL f/4 ,24mm-105L f/4, 16-35L II f/2.8, 70-200L II f/2.8, EF 100mm f/2.8, EF 50 f/1.4,17-85 EFS, 10-22 EFS, 580 EX, 2x 580 EXII, 270EX,STE2, 1. 4x Converter, 2.0x Converter. Nikon 800E w/Nikkor 24-70

  
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Oct 20, 2013 11:37 |  #22

Canon 40mm and Rokinon 14mm would be a combo that would cost only about $500 total.

Superb IQ, small, lightweight for travel.


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Oct 20, 2013 14:58 |  #23

in2fx wrote in post #16374740 (external link)
EF 50 f/1.4 and the EF 100 f/2.8 are my favourite non L prime lenses

This is what came to mind when I read the OP. Obviously this will lack on the wide end, but being on FF it should be "wide enough" for most work.




  
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Oct 20, 2013 17:46 |  #24

randalcandari wrote in post #16375077 (external link)
The 24, 28 and 35 IS versions seems good.

The new 28 f/2.8 IS is an excellent non-L prime that is very affordable when on sale.
The 40mm pancake is also excellent and avoids the issues that some of the 50mm lenses have.
The 85mm f/1.8 fits nicely with the above 2 lenses.

With patience & by searching sales, refurbs, and used you may be able to get all 3 for close to your target price.


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Oct 20, 2013 17:59 as a reply to  @ post 16375353 |  #25

kin2son wrote in post #16374767 (external link)
85 1.8?

THis a thousand times over. Best 300 bucks you'll ever spend. Not sure what to recommend under $500 on the wider end. I think 50/85 might be a bit close of you are only going to have 2. I do 35/85 and that's it.


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Oct 20, 2013 18:09 |  #26

$400 for each prime?

Absolutely nothing in that range beats the quality of Sigma 50mm f/1.4 and Canon 100mm f/2. I got them for exactly $400 each and can't be happier in terms of quality.


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Oct 20, 2013 21:32 |  #27

JRET wrote in post #16385721 (external link)
The 40mm pancake is also excellent and avoids the issues that some of the 50mm lenses have.

Many of the issues with the various 50mm don't apply if you close it to f/3.2 :)


My imagine composition sucks. I need a heavier lens.

  
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Oct 21, 2013 07:06 |  #28

_igi wrote in post #16375095 (external link)
I'm hardly impressed with 35 IS - it's one of my best lenses, i can say that it's on pair with 100L/135L in terms of image quality.

Also, 20/2.8, 28/1.8, 85/1.8 are really nice performers. I'm not a fan of 50/1.4 because of it's built quality, but 40 pancake is a stunner.

So you like your 28 1.8 ? I am currently hesitating between the 28 1.8 and the 35 f2 IS. You said the 35 f2 IS is amazing, is there a real difference between these two primes ?

Thanks!




  
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Oct 21, 2013 08:52 |  #29

genjurok wrote in post #16385772 (external link)
$400 for each prime?

Absolutely nothing in that range beats the quality of Sigma 50mm f/1.4 and Canon 100mm f/2. I got them for exactly $400 each and can't be happier in terms of quality.

sigma 50 is the only via 50 outside of the L imo... and I haven't even owned it. The 100F2 is a stud. Fantastic lens, made me urge for the 135 which I eventually got. I have accepted that I'm a 50/135 type. So whatever works, it may require testing a lot of lenses. I actually thought that 50 to 100 was not enough difference because I could somewhat crop to 100 in a pinch.


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Oct 21, 2013 18:24 |  #30

Nemofoto wrote in post #16386896 (external link)
So you like your 28 1.8 ? I am currently hesitating between the 28 1.8 and the 35 f2 IS. You said the 35 f2 IS is amazing, is there a real difference between these two primes ?

Thanks!

Yes, there is a difference.

Of those two lenses, I'd spend the about $100 more and go with the 35 f/2 IS. The 28mm is a nice lens, but the 35IS is significantly better.

Besides the IS, it is sharper and more contrasty than the 28mm. If I didn't have the 35L, I'd get the Sigma 35mm - but only because they have f/1.4. If I wasn't going to use the f/1.4 at f/1.4, I'd own the Canon 35mm F/2 IS.

My 28mm is delegated to a light weight travel lens when carrying my zooms and I think I will want semi-wide.


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