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Breaking News: Nikon goes full frame mirrorless?

 
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Oct 21, 2013 00:49 |  #1

First Sony announces their A7 and A7R, and now Nikon comes with a full frame retro style mirrorless!?
This development is more exciting than christmas eve and a birthday party combined! :D

It looks like Nikon's first model will be rather low on resolution, but at least the camera is a step in the right direction. It seems that Canon will soon be all alone with an "half assed" mirrorless product (the EOS M).

Quote from Nikonrumors:
"Sony sure shook the market with their A7/A7R full frame mirrorless cameras. Many readers have asked me if Nikon will be coming with something similar. I have mentioned in the past that I expect a third mystery camera this year that will have a retro design (something like the Olympus OMD). The new full frame camera will most likely be mirrorless, but it will have some kind of a special (hybrid?) viewfinder. I am also not yet sure if it will have a regular F-mount or a newly designed mount.

The announcement will be in the next 2-3 months, but it could happen as soon as next week during the PDN PhotoPlus show in New York. Stay tuned for more details."

Rumored specifications:
* Nikon FM2 like design
* 16.2MP 36x23,9 full frame sensor (same as in the D4?)
* SD memory card
* 2016-pixel RGB image sensor
* 9-cell framing grid display
* 3D color matrix metering II
* Native ISO range: 100-12,800 (incl. ISO 50 and ISO 108,200)
* 5.5 fps for up to 100 shots
* 3.2" LCD screen
* Battery:EN-EL14
* Dimensions: 143.5 x 110 x 66.5mm
* Weight: 765g
* It will come with a new AF-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.8G lens (again, not clear what mount the new lens will have)

Pic of the old FM2 from 1982.

IMAGE: http://nikonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Nikon-FM2-like-digital-full-frame-camera-rumors.jpg
IMAGE: http://nikonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Nikon-classical-F-cameras.jpg

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Oct 21, 2013 01:06 |  #2

An updated rumor suggests that the camera isn't mirrorless, and 765g is way too heavy i.m.o. Might as well be a traditional DSLR then.

Oh well, at least SoNikon is doing something new, and I really don't expect Canon to answer their latest innovations. Canon thinks their company exists in isolation.


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Oct 21, 2013 01:21 as a reply to  @ Ginga's post |  #3

I jumped the gun. Looks like Nikon still not brave enough to lose the mirror.




  
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Oct 21, 2013 02:08 |  #4

Breaking Rumors?
Fake News?

Looks like the definition of "news" has been distorted in the decade of the Twitter...


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Oct 21, 2013 02:27 |  #5

I like the design though.

If it only had been smaller, lighter, higher res, and mirrorless.


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Oct 21, 2013 02:48 |  #6

I did find the M to be half assed by Canon but I love mine now after ML.

Where else can you get a APS C body with a sharp prime lens and the ability to take raw video for $300?


Thanks to magic lantern of course, no help from Canon there. Also with dual ISO it now matches Nikon/Sony's dynamic range.


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Oct 21, 2013 03:02 as a reply to  @ maverick75's post |  #7

The half assed EOS-M is my favorite camera... Good on Nikon for their new release. FF will be great but will increase the camera size a bit. That somewhat negates a main mirrorless advantage.


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Oct 21, 2013 03:35 |  #8

District_History_Fan wrote in post #16386660 (external link)
The half assed EOS-M is my favorite camera... Good on Nikon for their new release. FF will be great but will increase the camera size a bit. That somewhat negates a main mirrorless advantage.

I'm not gonna get into a debate about the EOS M, but regarding your statement marked in bold..

Tell that to the A7R which is smaller, thinner and lighter than the Olympus E-M1 and a few other mirrorless cameras out there. http://snapsort.com …pus-OM-D-E-M1-vs-Sony-A7R (external link)


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Oct 21, 2013 04:38 |  #9

At the same time, that small(ish) camera body quickly loses it advantage as soon as you mount a bigass DSLR or whatever exotic MF lens on it.As seen here


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Oct 21, 2013 04:43 |  #10

Why is mirrorless better than mirrored?

Also, that retro design is lovely. Wish canon would do something like that!




  
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Oct 21, 2013 04:48 |  #11

reprazent wrote in post #16386743 (external link)
At the same time, that small(ish) camera body quickly loses it advantage as soon as you mount a bigass DSLR or whatever exotic MF lens on it.As seen here

A valid argument, but more so if you are a Nikon-shooter and have access to the D800.

The main excitement for us Canonites is the fabulous sensor. We are finally able to use our EF-glass on a high resolution / high DR sensor. I think that is what most people are excited about. The smaller size and weight is truly just a bonus.

And yes, it is smaller and lighter. Canon's 5D3 (950g) and 6D (770g) are substantially bigger and heavier than the Sony A7R (475g).. The 5D3 is 100% heavier than the Sony A7R.




  
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Oct 21, 2013 09:27 |  #12

Osiriz wrote in post #16386510 (external link)
Rumored specifications:
* Dimensions: 143.5 x 110 x 66.5mm
* Weight: 765g


Canon 70D
specifications:
* Dimensions: 139.0 x 104.3 x 78.5 mm
* Weight: 755g with battery and memory card

I get that some people like the Nikon/Sony sensors, but why all the hoopla over a mirrorless camera that has none of the advantages that its fans claim for mirrorless?


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Oct 21, 2013 09:40 |  #13

They're rumors, I'm doubting that this camera is even mirrorless.




  
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