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Oct 22, 2013 01:26 |  #1

I tried printing a bunch of 4x6's at costco the past couple days to see what a larger print may turn out to be. I didn't use the printer profile as I'm not quite that savvy yet. Can you (with the calibrated monitors) look at my pictures and see if they are mostly underexposed and also if the color "pops" at all? I use a laptop so it looks good on here but I need to know how to print them so they look how I see them!

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Oct 22, 2013 01:42 |  #2
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Pic looks fine on my calibrated display.

Your photos do lean towards the underexposure end of the spectrum; I don't mean that as critique, though: I also prefer some of my pictures to be rather dark. Just make sure that the darkness is intent and not a post-processing issue. For printing your images, you might want to apply a Curves layer set to Screen blending mode and ~30% opacity; see if that makes them come out better from the printer.


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Oct 22, 2013 01:55 |  #3

looks ok to me. with digital you have the advantage of exposer bracketing the
shot and then digitally blending the pictures in photoshop to capture the wider
dynamic range. This i guess you know already. but there is no harm not to do
it as it will give you more flexibility when post processing.




  
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Oct 22, 2013 02:01 |  #4

Exposure's pretty close, but the colors are dull, detail is fuzzy and there is some nasty CA going on in the trees.

Since you have image editing on, here's a quick, low res pass that I did on the image in LR5 for comparison:

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- Reduced Chromatic Aberration
- Increased base constrast via Tone Curve tool
- Pushed Shadows up a tad
- Dropped Black point a bit
- Pushed up White point a bit
- Sharpening applied

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Oct 22, 2013 07:28 |  #5

Sorry, but I much prefer the unaltered shot.


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Oct 22, 2013 08:21 |  #6

I also prefer the original - the edit is over sharpened....but the orig does need a sharpening.
Your prints will be darker than the digital version on screen (monitor). You really should try to edit with your stores profile or when ordering try the 2 options....no adjustment at the store and WITH their adjustment...I found it is trial and error but you definitely will have to compensate.




  
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Oct 22, 2013 09:02 as a reply to  @ Spike44's post |  #7

I would have underexposed this scene as well, probably one stop. This would prevent the sky from blowing out, doing so with the intention of working the shadows in post processing. I adjusted the shadows carefully in PS(shadows and highlights) and sharpened just a touch.

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Oct 22, 2013 09:26 |  #8

Lowner wrote in post #16389676 (external link)
Sorry, but I much prefer the unaltered shot.

Sure, but you frequently have to 'over' sharpen a shot that is going to be printed; while it may look harsh on the computer screen, you can actually see those details in the print. Which was one of the things the OP was wanting to address.


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Oct 22, 2013 10:29 |  #9

oahumike wrote in post #16389322 (external link)
I tried printing a bunch of 4x6's at costco the past couple days to see what a larger print may turn out to be. I didn't use the printer profile as I'm not quite that savvy yet.

Did you turn Autocorrect OFF?

Can you (with the calibrated monitors) look at my pictures and see if they are mostly underexposed and also if the color "pops" at all? I use a laptop so it looks good on here but I need to know how to print them so they look how I see them!

I think that you're going at this from the wrong direction. The final print is the only guideline that I would use. Not how the jpg looks on your, or any other monitor. (Browsers make a difference, too! (external link))

Also, are you looking at the prints in your kitchen? In sunlight? Take a look at Why Are My Prints Too Dark? (external link)
Especially, where it says, "It is absolutely critical to have well-controlled print viewing conditions next to the display!"

And you're using a laptop which probably means that what you see from one angle is different from a slightly other angle. So trying to answer your question is getting more & more complicated, isn't it? ; )

First, I've never had a problem with mine, but knowing if your Costco is printing 'correctly' would help, so maybe starting with a known standard print will help to zero in to the problem.
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Then, looking at your print in the light that you intend that print to be viewed in the future, tweak it if you need to reprint it & make a note of those corrections. Then when you're going to print some other file, make your normal corrections for what you see on the screen. You know that will be off a little, so now add those now 'standard' corrections that you've figured out for your system & suddenly life will get a lot easier?

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Sure, but you frequently have to 'over' sharpen a shot that is going to be printed; while it may look harsh on the computer screen, you can actually see those details in the print. Which was one of the things the OP was wanting to address.

I agree. Viewing settings for an image aren't optimal for the same image that's going to print.


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Oct 22, 2013 12:39 as a reply to  @ PhotosGuy's post |  #10

here is one attempt to improve the sky.


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Oct 22, 2013 17:50 as a reply to  @ nittaya's post |  #11

The adjusted photo by Nighthound will print the best at Costco. My Costco prints always have to be over brightened, sharpened and colors punched to stand out.

I did recently calibrate my monitor so I will have to see if that changes.


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Oct 23, 2013 02:34 as a reply to  @ GoCanes's post |  #12

thanks for all of the advice. I will try to print them again soon and let you know the results. I'm sure i'll be right back for advice on this topic!


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