Sony's full-frame Alpha 7 and 7R

OK I was reading from this: http://www.dpreview.co​m/previews/sony-alpha-7-7r/2
I clicked on the link above and read it there, now to start saving...

my name is always taken wrote in post #16402206
Don't mean to be rude but where does it say bulb?
Thanks

You go into manual and set shutter speed below 30s, it turns into a B.

Has anyone figured out how to do continuous 30sec. exposures for star trails? With my Canon, I set the camera to 30 sec., continuous shooting mode and lock the shutter using the remote. How would one do this with a Sony A7????

5Dmaniac wrote in post #16402834
Has anyone figured out how to do continuous 30sec. exposures for star trails? With my Canon, I set the camera to 30 sec., continuous shooting mode and lock the shutter using the remote. How would one do this with a Sony A7????

I believe you would lock the shutter on the remote under Bulb mode.

peteg1 wrote in post #16403131
I believe you would lock the shutter on the remote under Bulb mode.

This is not the A7/A7r but it will give you an idea how Sony does it.

http://m.youtube.com …2Fwatch%3Fv%3Du​SvEbwRvp7E

It actually doesn't answer the question. I know how Bulb mode works but what about continuous shooting with a locked shutter? There is no wired control for the Sony A7, the wireless control can only fire the shutter once. There is no continuous shooting available with Sony's wireless remote.

Leaving the shutter open for three hours at a time in Bulb mode increases the noise to a point that it renders the picture useless - the only solution is 30sec exposures in continuous mode.

For me this would be a showstopper for this camera, as I really like those star trail shots

5Dmaniac wrote in post #16403235
It actually doesn't answer the question. I know how Bulb mode works but what about continuous shooting with a locked shutter? There is no wired control for the Sony A7, the wireless control can only fire the shutter once. There is no continuous shooting available with Sony's wireless remote.

Leaving the shutter open for three hours at a time in Bulb mode increases the noise to a point that it renders the picture useless - the only solution is 30sec exposures in continuous mode.

For me this would be a showstopper for this camera, as I really like those star trail shots

Yeah sorry about that, misunderstood what you were asking. I have no knowledge of Sony's remotes but with wireless 3rd party remotes coming you never know.

No reason to apologize - I appreciate you jumping in and trying to help out. I would think that with a professional camera like the A7r Sony would offer that type of remote operation - how else would you take these type of shots?

5Dmaniac wrote in post #16403305
No reason to apologize - I appreciate you jumping in and trying to help out. I would think that with a professional camera like the A7r Sony would offer that type of remote operation - how else would you take these type of shots?

The camera should have this capability. The best thing to do is wait till the camera releases. I want this camera too but, until I get confirmation that my 17 TS-E and 24 TS-E II will work then all I can do is play the waiting game.

For those of you interested. I figured out how to shoot star trails with a NEX camera. See my posts above about my dilemma.

You need to install the "Play Memories" app from the Sony store. Then you buy the Time Lapse app which will allow you to create a custom sequence - eg. 30 sec. exposure at f/5.6 , ISO 400 and then you can specify the number of shots you want to take.

The app itself costs $9.99

It'll also allow you to do time lapse videos and some other fancy stuff.

Saying to the last post about time laps, I have the app DSLR Controller and I know with my 1d mk3 I can do time laps. Works the same way you have described above.
I would like to know now if DSLR Controller s going to support this camera. I would like to hope so coz this is an app I would be using tethered or thru its WiFi/pairing function..

Does anyone have more sample pics?

Let's hope the timelapse app has been improved. I've been using on a Nex-6 for quite some time now. It is ok IF the exposure does not change during the entirety of the timelapse shoot. Why? Because the version I have sets exposure on the first shot and all consequent shots (think 300 to 400) are set the same....so no bulb ramping here and thus sun ups and sun downs always end up with a blown our portion of that 300-400 pictutes.

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #16404598
Let's hope the timelapse app has been improved. I've been using on a Nex-6 for quite some time now. It is ok IF the exposure does not change during the entirety of the timelapse shoot. Why? Because the version I have sets exposure on the first shot and all consequent shots (think 300 to 400) are set the same....so no bulb ramping here and thus sun ups and sun downs always end up with a blown our portion of that 300-400 pictutes.

I agree, the app is VERY rudimentary and does not really offer the right tools for a photographer who knows what he/she is doing. But right now it is the ONLY way I see to do time lapse and star trail photography.

SteveHuffPhoto.com gives his views on the cameras
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=uAg3kVjv7q0#t​=798

I was at the PhotoPlus Expo in NYC last weekend and used the A7R and was quite impressed with it. It's not that much bigger than my NEX-7 (see comparison pic A7 with a NEX-7 below) and handles really well. I'm a long-time Leica M user but I've never bought a digital Leica M because I just can't deal with the glitches and the defect rate. I've found the NEX-7 to be as bulletproof as my mechanical Leica M bodies so while I'm not an early adopter I will get an A7R and maybe the Zeiss 35/2.8 AF next year.

My use of color is mainly for family snaps and suchlike as I'm really a B&W film shooter, however this FF Sony could well make a difference. I use my Leica M lenses with a Novoflex adapter on the NEX-7 and the results are pretty incredible from an IQ perspective. What they will be like with this 36MP body is difficult to imagine.

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