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Unsharp wide open, overpriced not perfect lenses : what did you dump,now perfect set?

 
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Oct 31, 2013 07:30 |  #1

Who also got tired paying (sometimes too much) for lenses that are unsharp wide open ? I think a lot of you like to work wide open with most lenses to have a nice bokeh / faster shutterspeed.
A lot of you probably hate paying overpriced lenses - still with lens faults - like soft wide open, focus shifts, CA,...

I dumped all lenses that were unsharp in past (50 1.4, now 24-70 I for sale, ...). Concerning price/quality I dumped 17-40 & 16-35 II as Tokina is the best of the 3, don't need any filters.

My sharpest setup now is :
Tokina 16-28 2.8
35L
85 1.8 (on order, I know it's got purple fringing, but 85L I & II also have CA, so for this price it's worth it)
135L
70-200 2.8L II

This is my sharp wide open/fair priced setup (35L & 70-200 2.8LII are also overpriced, but second hand they are more affordable :)

Anyone also got tired of this too, what did you dump and what is your perfect set now ?


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Oct 31, 2013 10:52 |  #2

So razor sharpness is the only thing that makes good photos?

And how are you determining that a lens is overpriced? Do you know the challenges and costs of designing out various aberrations in fast lenses or complex zooms?

Your example of the 35L as being part of your "sharpest setup" is interesting. The 35L is very sharp in the center wide open, but is quite poor in the outer zones. For example, the 50/1.4 that you sold for being unsharp beats it.




  
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Oct 31, 2013 10:58 |  #3

I'de rather take a softer 17-40 and ability to use filters.

razor sharpness isnt everything. 50L definitely is not razor sharp, but I'm a huge fan of the focal length.

what makes me tired literally are heavy lenses.


Sony A7siii/A7iii/ZV-1 - FE 24/1.4 - SY 24/2.8 - FE 35/2.8 - FE 50/1.8 - FE 85/1.8 - F 600/5.6 - CZ 100-300 - Tamron 17-28/2.8 - 28-75/2.8 - 28-200 RXD
Panasonic G9 - Laowa 7.5/2 - PL 15/1.7 - P 42.5/1.8 - OM 75/1.8 - PL 10-25/1.7 - P 12-32 - P 14-140

  
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Oct 31, 2013 11:15 |  #4

Colors, AF speed, AF accuracy, IS or non IS, build quality, many many things make up the lens.

For me The Tamron 70-200 and the 24-70 are not the sharpest. But I use them because they fit my needs currently.

I do just fine with my kid and don't desire much more.


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Oct 31, 2013 12:01 |  #5

1st i will say sorry, because it makes me more than once laughing. Without a BIG humor life would be crappy.

A lot of Pro Photographers (and some others) will be VERY happy because of the Digital stuff. Camera's. Because U can shoot as many Photo's from a scene as U want.
Isn't smart to shoot just 1 Photo !!

Because its digital U will need some software. NOT only stuff from Canon.
Adobe Photoshop & Adobe Lightroom is The Software at this moment. I think every Pro Photographer (and some others) are using them.
I am using Photoshop Elements & Premiere Elements 11 & LR 5

Well, WHO will ever use a Photo right-out-of-the-camera ? No One !
Because there will be ALWAYS something to edit !!
WHO isn't playing around with the in-camera-option to edit the lens-correction ?
Micro adjustments for each lens / all lenses.......

Because every Pro Photographer (and some others) like to know about that stuff... What-will-happen-If...
Some lenses will be 100% right-out-of-the-box, some not.
Sometimes that lens did cost 100$ sometimes 1000 $
Sometimes a lens from 1500 $ needs some micro adjustment...
So, a Pro Photographer (and some others) will need to know a little bit more than how to put things together to create a perfect Photo.


............and i am more than 100% happy with Tamron !


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Oct 31, 2013 13:06 |  #6

I get frustrated with soft copies of lenses or automatic lenses that have wonky auto-focus. So far, I have been very happy with my 2 canon lenses, the 50mm 1.8 and 24-105. I did have to microadjust the 50mm and the 24-105 on the telephoto end, but both are very sharp... focuses just fine.

I was very unhappy with the sigma 30, tamron 28-75, and end up selling the Sigma 24-60 2.8(which was a sharp copy, but had horrible autofocus.

My zeiss distagon 28 2.8 is amazing from 2.8 to f11... For me, this is my favorite lens of all time... Makes me wonder how the 28 f2 and the 21 2.8 does :)
The colors, Contrast, and look is wonderful.

My planar 50 1.4 is soft at 1.4 and a tad soft at 2... 2.8 is very sharp
Planar 50 1.7 is not too bad at 1.7, but not as sharp as the 1.4 at 2.8.. still an amazing lens.
I don't really care for my sonnar 135mm 2.8.. images aren't very sharp at all (Maybe I'm bad at focusing manually on the telephoto end of things)


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Nov 01, 2013 03:34 |  #7
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Perhaps I don't worry too much about sharpness. I have had and sold a laundry list of primes. I just don't find them as convenient as a decent zoom.

Zooms I currently have:
Tamron 28-75
10-22, 15-85, Σ70-200 OS, 100-400L.
I'd like to add a 17-55, but it ain't worth half what is sells for. To me folks, to me.

Primes I've sold:
24 2.8, 24 2.8 IS, 28 2.8, 35 2, 50 1.8, 85 1.8, 135L, 200 2.8L
I just don't find primes to be worth the trouble. The only prime I currently own is the 60mm f/2.8 macro. I would like an EF 24mm f/1.4L II. Money is a small problem, though.


Dedicated APS-c shooter. Gripped 60D, 60 2.8, 10-22, 15-85, Σ70-200 OS and a big white something or other! Plus a 5D w/28-75.

  
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