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Nov 01, 2013 21:52 |  #1

A buddy has close to 12 Grand + to spend on camera gear. This "Friend" has pretty much the same gear as I do and usually shoots Wildlife, Nature, Aircraft and Landscape. What would you advise him to purchase? 1Dx, 1Ds 5D Mark III, 6D? The new 200-400 F/4, 500 F/4, 600 F/4 or 2.8, 800 f/5.6?????? Something different? I'm leaning towards the new 200-400...


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Nov 01, 2013 22:04 |  #2

Sell all your current cameras, the EFS lens, the 24-105 and the Tamron. Get a 5d MK3 and a 1DX and get whatever lens you want most.


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Nov 01, 2013 22:06 |  #3

1dx would be cool for wildlife. he'd be able to get multiple shots each time an animal roared, yawned, flapped, ran, or attacked. then he can pick the best frame from the sequence.

5d3 would be cool for nature and landscapes since it has more resolution.




  
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Nov 01, 2013 22:13 |  #4

I'd go with the 200-400 in a heartbeat. The extra stop @ 400 and ability to switch in the TC on the fly would be huge; plus, it is a damn sharp zoom


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Nov 01, 2013 22:35 as a reply to  @ Snydremark's post |  #5

Keep the 5D2 if you can live with the AF! 5D3 and 6D are just glorified versions of the 5D2, and not worth the upgrade.

Canon is bound to come out with something new and exciting next year, and I would save my money until then if I were you. But if you want something new to play with right now, just go and buy some sweet EF-glass and some other misc gear.

You could also do like me and buy Sony's new mirrorless full frame A7R! It has 36MP and tonnes of dynamic range for your high contrast work. It will be a top notch camera for landscapes, and you can use all yor EF glass on it thanks to the metabones adapter.




  
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Nov 01, 2013 22:58 |  #6

Osiriz wrote in post #16417600 (external link)
5D3 and 6D are just glorified versions of the 5D2, and not worth the upgrade.

5D Mk3 is just a glorified 5D2? Please. Enlighten us


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Nov 01, 2013 23:13 |  #7

kevinstinks wrote in post #16417646 (external link)
5D Mk3 is just a glorified 5D2? Please. Enlighten us

Quick guide on how to build a 5D3:

  • Rreuse the sensor from the 5D2 (Do not fix the shadow banding. Do not increase the low ISO dynamic range. Do not increase the resolution.)
  • Add a bunch of software features and gimmicks like in-camera-hdr and rate button.
  • Remove ability to use focus screens. (Force people to buy EF-glass with AF).
  • Top it with an uncrippled AF module.


That's it!



  
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Nov 01, 2013 23:22 |  #8

Osiriz wrote in post #16417600 (external link)
Keep the 5D2 if you can live with the AF! 5D3 and 6D are just glorified versions of the 5D2, and not worth the upgrade.

Osiriz wrote in post #16417674 (external link)
Quick guide on how to build a 5D3:

  • Rreuse the sensor from the 5D2 (Do not fix the shadow banding. Do not increase the low ISO dynamic range. Do not increase the resolution.)
  • Add a bunch of software features and gimmicks like in-camera-hdr and rate button.
  • Remove ability to use focus screens. (Force people to buy EF-glass with AF).
  • Top it with an uncrippled AF module.


That's it!

Quoted for truth.

I fell for the hype and upgraded to the 5D3. It's a nice camera for sure, but so was my 5D2. The difference between these two is absolutely significant for my type of work, and I really wish I had saved my money.

So back on topic. Get new glass, keep the 5D2.


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Nov 01, 2013 23:22 |  #9

Osiriz wrote in post #16417674 (external link)
Quick guide on how to build a 5D3:

  • Rreuse the sensor from the 5D2 (Do not fix the shadow banding. Do not increase the low ISO dynamic range. Do not increase the resolution.)
  • Add a bunch of software features and gimmicks like in-camera-hdr and rate button.
  • Remove ability to use focus screens. (Force people to buy EF-glass with AF).
  • Top it with an uncrippled AF module.


That's it!

Thanks for the clarification. I had been wondering what kind of R&D Canon put into the 5D3. It's so clear now.:rolleyes: lol


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Nov 01, 2013 23:30 |  #10

kevinstinks wrote in post #16417692 (external link)
Thanks for the clarification. I had been wondering what kind of R&D Canon put into the 5D3. It's so clear now.:rolleyes: lol

You are welcome! This is just common knowledge among us who owned the 5D2 in the past. But I can understand how the 5D3 seems "magical" or "groundbreaking" for someone who upgraded from the 7D or the xxxD line.

Enjoy. :)




  
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Nov 01, 2013 23:38 |  #11

Osiriz wrote in post #16417708 (external link)
You are welcome! This is just common knowledge among us who owned the 5D2 in the past. But I can understand how the 5D3 seems "magical" or "groundbreaking" for someone who upgraded from the 7D or the xxxD line.

Enjoy. :)


I had a 5D2 for several years as well as the 5D before that. Nice try, sport. :)


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Nov 01, 2013 23:49 |  #12

kevinstinks wrote in post #16417720 (external link)
I had a 5D2 for several years as well as the 5D before that. Nice try, sport. :)

Then you should already know why many think the 5D3 is a "glorofied 5D2".

Personally, I call it 5D2.5.

I think we are derailing the thread now. :lol:


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Nov 01, 2013 23:57 |  #13

I'd go 1Dx and some used big-whites. :D


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Nov 02, 2013 00:05 as a reply to  @ Erik S. Klein's post |  #14

i think vastly superior AF system alone make the 5D3 worth upgrading to.

high iso capabilities don't hurt either.

of course, for shooting daytime landscapes those aren't advantages, but for shooting action dim light the 5d3 totally destroys the 5d2.




  
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Nov 02, 2013 00:18 |  #15

Kevin- I'll never sell my 7d, whoops my buddy will never... HAHA. Cats out of the bag now!!!! Now the 5D2 I would consider selling not that impressed with it.
Have a friend that has a 6D that whoops its (5D2) A$$, noise wise and IQ!!! Sorry Osiriz!!!!
Not really looking at that body,(6D) or to go to a Sony body.
The 5D3 was on my "Watch" list but not sure! The 1dx and the 800 is a dream but 1dx and 200-400 are within reach. Although, after reading a BUNCH of "Personal" opinions, the 5D3 beats the 1Dx for people that shoot for fun/hobby or plan on selling shots/go pro in the future.
The 1Dx does "Fit" larger hands, which I have, better than a 5d3 with a grip, but is the x-tra cash worth the "Pro" look/feel? IQ vs the 2 bodies???
Then comes the glass! To own a 800L would be flat out AWESOME! Purchase that and stick it on my 7D for wildlife during "Great" light! Would the 200-400 be just as good with my 1.4 added to it? How bout a 600+7D with a 1.4 x-tender?
Just so yall know, I'm a firm believer in only crying once!!! Any hunters out there will understand that, just wanna get some great "Upgrades" to my equipment.
Something in-between the 1Dx and the 5D3/6D...come on Canon!!!
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