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Nov 03, 2013 15:45 |  #406

gabebalazs wrote in post #16421454 (external link)
Isn't the 6D aluminum? I'm not on anyone's side here, just asking...

Nope. Magnesium with a polycarbonate top plate (the same stuff they make most guns with these days).

http://www.cameralabs.​com/reviews/Canon_EOS_​6D/ (external link)

But clearly guns don't need to be as rugged as cameras :rolleyes:


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Nov 03, 2013 15:45 |  #407

I recently got the 6D after coming back to Canon from Nikon. The center point is excellent on the 6D, certainly better than what my 5D2 was. I like the feeling of the 6D in hand. It's much better than my D800 was. The 5D3 feels nicer, but not $1,000 nicer. I don't need the other features of the 5D3, so the 6D is perfect for what I do. The high ISO was the real selling point for me, and I would buy the 6D again if I could travel 2 weeks back in time.


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Nov 03, 2013 15:55 |  #408

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #16421460 (external link)
Nope. Magnesium with a polycarbonate top plate (the same stuff they make most guns with these days).

http://www.cameralabs.​com/reviews/Canon_EOS_​6D/ (external link)

But clearly guns don't need to be as rugged as cameras :rolleyes:

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Nov 03, 2013 16:01 |  #409

gabebalazs wrote in post #16421479 (external link)
thanks!!

No problem ;) This is why I really think the "build quality" argument is pure nonsense. It's entirely stemmed from peoples bias upon hearing the word "plastic", which is a wonderful material by the way.


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Nov 03, 2013 17:57 |  #410

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #16421495 (external link)
No problem ;) This is why I really think the "build quality" argument is pure nonsense. It's entirely stemmed from peoples bias upon hearing the word "plastic", which is a wonderful material by the way.

It's not non-sense, but it is over played.




  
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Nov 03, 2013 18:22 |  #411

quadwing wrote in post #16421290 (external link)
No, the point of this thread was to discuss and compare the physical build quality and "feeling" of the 6D, to perhaps the 5DII/5DIII, or the 7D. My opinion was that it felt cheap.

I own a 6D and a 7D. They are both in my hands on a weekly basis. I don't "feel" much difference between the two other than the fact that the 6D is a little smaller and lighter.

By the way, the reason that the 6D has a polycarbonate top is so that the GPS will pick up a signal. It wasn't to scrimp on costs.

I love it when a person picks up a camera once or twice and then pontificates about how cheap it feels.


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Nov 03, 2013 18:25 |  #412
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My 60D is plastic. I am happy about that. It was less expensive manufacture and purchase. Unlike bobbyz, I have no plans to beat anyone to a pulp with my camera. :)


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Nov 03, 2013 19:11 |  #413

quadwing wrote in post #16421317 (external link)
I can feel the difference in build quality between the 6D and 500D, but at the same time, the 6D feels closer to the 500D in my opinion, than it does to the 7D. It feels plastic-y and cheap to me.

The only difference I can "feel" is in the mass of the body.
I seriously doubt that anybody could pick the composition of a body by the "feel".
By the time they're coated with whatever they're coated with, and the rubberised grips are added, in my hands they all "feel" much the same same.
Some of the BUTTONS, DPADS etc on the various bodies I've used have certainly felt different though.


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Nov 03, 2013 20:45 |  #414

This thread had me tryout the outer AF points -- shot with the bottom AF point when in landscape.

Been eyeing this lighting in my house for awhile. Finally had the right subject matter to take advantage.

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Nov 03, 2013 21:05 |  #415

^^ One shot or servo? Looks nice and sharp.

I did some more tests after resetting the camera. Here is the subject, the lens cap from 24-70mm. Lens used 24-70mm f2.8 II which is fast to AF. In one shot mode, I can AF using any point but in AI servo mode, the center top most point (horizontal camera position) just refuses to AF. It keeps raking the lens back and forth. If I move AF point to the one left/right to center top most, camera locks AF. So not sure why center top most point won't work.

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As you see one shot mode, it is perfect. in AI servo mode same shot but using top most center no AF at all. With center point or side points AI servo, it locks fine.

Would some 6d owner be kind enough to try same case? Thanks in advance.

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Nov 03, 2013 21:09 |  #416

I tried more one shot AF and it seems better with 24-70mm f2.8 II. Maybe my issue with faster glass? Not sure.

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Nov 03, 2013 21:09 |  #417

I almost always keep my AF in Servo as this one was in Servo mode.


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Nov 03, 2013 21:11 |  #418

CJCMarquez wrote in post #16422255 (external link)
I almost always keep my AF in Servo as this one was in Servo mode.

So AF point on lamp or the bed? Face looks perfect.


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Nov 03, 2013 21:14 |  #419

bobbyz wrote in post #16422262 (external link)
So AF point on lamp or the bed? Face looks perfect.

It was on one of the eyes. I forget which eye though.


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Nov 03, 2013 21:14 |  #420

bobbyz wrote in post #16422243 (external link)
^^ One shot or servo? Looks nice and sharp.

I did some more tests after resetting the camera. Here is the subject, the lens cap from 24-70mm. Lens used 24-70mm f2.8 II which is fast to AF. In one shot mode, I can AF using any point but in AI servo mode, the center top most point (horizontal camera position) just refuses to AF. It keeps taking the lens back and forth. If I move AF point to the one left/right to center top most, camera locks AF. So not sure why center top most point won't work.

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As you see one shot mode, it is perfect. in AI servo mode same shot but using top most center no AF at all. With center point or side points AI servo, it locks fine.

Would some 6d owner be kind enough to try same case? Thanks in advance.

That's kind of odd, Bobby. On my 6D, if my top center point locks onto a target in one-shot, then it locks onto it in servo too. If it encounters those rare cases when I shoot perfectly horizontal lines with no other pattern, it of course hunts, but it hunts in both modes.


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