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Thread started 03 Nov 2013 (Sunday) 12:58
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POLL: "Which would you choose?"
17-55 f2.8
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15-85
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Opinions: 17-55 f2.8 or 15-85??

 
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Nov 05, 2013 07:56 |  #31

chongkiat wrote in post #16425745 (external link)
15-85mm weak point is at 15mm and 85mm , i rather get something 17-55mm f2.8 (sharp at any range) + 70-200mm )
the 70-200mm is way way sharp at 85mm vs the 15-85 @ 85mm

What is the weakness? I have taken hundreds (or even thousands) of very nice photos at 15mm and 85mm with this lens and I can't see any weak points at all.

You can compare the 15-85 and 17-55 on this site and check for yourself: http://www.the-digital-picture.com …p=736&FLIComp=0​&APIComp=0 (external link)

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Nov 05, 2013 08:22 |  #32

msowsun wrote in post #16425888 (external link)
What is the weakness? I have taken hundreds (or even thousands) of very nice photos at 15mm and 85mm with this lens and I can't see any weak points at all.

I got this lens specifically for 15 mm - the most useful focal length for vacation in Europe. It met all my expectations and more.


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Nov 05, 2013 08:28 |  #33

I need wide apertures, as wide as I can afford.
That's why I picked and would still pick the 17-55.




  
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Nov 05, 2013 16:10 |  #34

In the poll the 17-55's are winning by a large margin but the 18-85's are putting up strong arguments!


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Nov 05, 2013 18:15 as a reply to  @ dansmail26's post |  #35

Interesting thread as I am debating the same issue.

Is it a safe assumption that either lens is an upgrade from my 18-135 kit lens?

I also own the 28 1.8 so I have a fast lens. Collecting lenses is an expensive hobby that I don't want to do. Therefore I appreciate comments from seasoned photographers to assist me in my purchase decisions.




  
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Nov 05, 2013 18:18 |  #36

chongkiat wrote in post #16425745 (external link)
15-85mm weak point is at 15mm and 85mm , i rather get something 17-55mm f2.8 (sharp at any range) + 70-200mm )

the 70-200mm is way way sharp at 85mm vs the 15-85 @ 85mm

I use the 17-55mm f/2.8 IS and the 70-200mm f/4L IS lens as a pair on two 7D cameras. Pretty heavy but, versatile as all get out...

I shot this hand held night view of Hong Kong from the back of a crowd (eliminating the capability of using my tripod). I shot it using 55mm at ISO 800, 1/25 second @ f/2.8.

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Nov 05, 2013 20:59 |  #37

dansmail26 wrote in post #16422953 (external link)
Sabres fan here so you probably won't give me a straight answer, LOL!! But this year I am re-thinking my allegiance to them, if they aren't going to fire the GM!

Anyways, here's a link to a page which shows some a good sample of my wifes pics. They are mostly of our granddaughter, with a mix of outdoor shots.

http://365project.org/​debihas27/365/2013-10 (external link)


I say go for the 15 - 85 :P also when I registered for this site I was a staunch leafs fan, now I'm just what I call a hockey fan (journalism major has taught me to lessen my allegiance to any hockey team. Though in some ways the Leafs will always be my first love.

But yeah for your use-ages the extra reach of a 15 - 85 would be more beneficial, just use a Canon 430 EXII or other flash unit when you need more light.


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Nov 05, 2013 21:07 |  #38

I know lots of people look down on variable aperture lenses. I have two of them and love them both. It really does depend on what you shoot and in what kind of environment you are shooting.

I shoot more landscapes with my 15-85 than people, more flowers than portraits so I like the range. The 15mm is wide enough for me, at least, it seems to be. When I do take photos of my wife or other family members, it's usually outside in bright sunlight so I don't need need f/2.8. I realize some prefer to get subject separation and that's great.... I often like to see the background in focus too.... probably because I take those photos for the memories.


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Nov 05, 2013 22:51 |  #39

Actually only 130 bucks difference at B&H. But I voted for 15-85 because unless you specifically need the f2.8, the 15-85 is much wider/longer, it has better IS (4stop vs 5), both are fast enough focusing and both are sharp (I have heard arguments both ways on sharpness)


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Nov 06, 2013 00:57 |  #40

dansmail26 wrote in post #16421123 (external link)
Would like to hear some opinions, especially from those who have used both lenses.
here's what I have figured out so far-
17-55
Little better build
faster focus
2.8 throughout range
15-85
Better zoom range
Focus is not a problem
~$200 cheaper
Both
IQ is excellent!

Any thoughts?

This question has been done to death already. If you search you will probably find a hundred or more threads where the merits of these two lenses are compared. The answers are always the same and many here could you tell you almost word for word what the responses would be. Save yourself some time and search the site yourself. You will find more information comparing these two lenses than you'll know what to do with.


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Nov 06, 2013 06:21 |  #41

I have noticed Canon's price of the 17-55 has gone down substantially of late. It's now only $80 more than the 15-85.

Anyone want to hazard a guess why?


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Nov 06, 2013 06:34 |  #42

Phoenixkh wrote in post #16428684 (external link)
I have noticed Canon's price of the 17-55 has gone down substantially of late. It's now only $80 more than the 15-85.

Anyone want to hazard a guess why?

I have been looking at used and the going prices seem to be around $425 for the 15-85 and $625 for the 17-55.


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Nov 06, 2013 07:22 |  #43

dansmail26 wrote in post #16428700 (external link)
I have been looking at used and the going prices seem to be around $425 for the 15-85 and $625 for the 17-55.

Wow... I overpaid for my wife's used 15-85 I got back in June when I got her the SL1. I paid $600, though you couldn't tell it from new.


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Nov 06, 2013 07:40 |  #44

Phoenixkh wrote in post #16428781 (external link)
Wow... I overpaid for my wife's used 15-85 I got back in June when I got her the SL1. I paid $600, though you couldn't tell it from new.

I got my 15-85 new in 2009 when they first came out. I paid $999 CAD + 13% tax = $1,128.87 CAD :shock:


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Nov 06, 2013 09:11 |  #45

hennie wrote in post #16425974 (external link)
I need wide apertures, as wide as I can afford.
That's why I picked and would still pick the 17-55.

For what? If for getting more light in - you can just use higher ISO or use a flash. If for shallow DOF - you can use a fast prime. If you need to have both frequently - you surely need f/2.8, if not - the 15-85, assisted (when needed) by a prime lens and a flash would be a better choice.


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