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What do you NOT want to see on the new Canon 7D II

 
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Nov 06, 2013 12:57 |  #1

I have read with interest all the latest rumours about the next gen 7D, from it will be a better 7D full stop :) to it will be a ruggerdised 70D :(

It almost certainly will have the flipping useless addition of 'better' video (after several years I still haven't used it on my 7D) and wifi/GPS etc. So my question to you guys is, not what would you like to see on the new mkII, but rather what do you not want to see (in a perfect world). Therefore in this fantasy scenario, all the development money would go to make a better semi-pro crop sensor camera.

I do not want (please Canon):

  • Video recording (I don't shoot video with a stills camera)
  • GPS (I know where I have taken photos)
  • A flippy, twisty, touch screen (I am able to understand controls on a camera, plus I am older than 12) and don't need something which won't stand up to the situations I take pictures in.
  • The same sensor as the 70D (negligible improvement)
  • Did I mention video recording
  • Single slot card(but can live with this if you promise not to put any video on the camera)
  • Any pre-set modes like sport or landscape to clutter up my mode dial
  • Crazy high megapixel numbers please
  • V....I....D....E....O
Ok perhaps it's just me that gates the wasted money that goes on video stuff

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Nov 06, 2013 13:18 |  #2

Really?? After all these years you still have to whine about video? Don't want it, don't use it. Plus.. it's just not going to happen so why keep bringing it up.


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Nov 06, 2013 13:30 |  #3

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Really?? After all these years you still have to whine about video? Don't want it, don't use it. Plus.. it's just not going to happen so why keep bringing it up.

I could respond what the point of bringing up your objection to my objection. There we are, it's a done deal :D


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Nov 06, 2013 13:34 |  #4

There is very likely zero money wasted on video. First, video is an extension of Live View, something I use extensively. Second, the addition of video expands the market for the camera, thus increasing the benefits of the "economy of scale". Adding video may very well decrease the cost of the camera well beyond the minor cost of a microphone. There are so many people doing video with their SLRs that not only has it sprouted an entirely new market for SLR specific video equipment, but it has led to the creation of the 1DC and the C100/300 etc. These same people buy quite a lot of 5 and 7 series cameras.

The only issue I have with video is the more aggressive AA filters used to combat moire. That is something that can be remedied however. Outside of that, the use of SLRs for video brings things to still shooting that are quite beneficial. Magic Lantern, and all it's functionality, was brought to us by film guys, yet is very useful for stills shooting. It's so useful I couldn't imagine not having it, yet if it weren't for video Magic Lantern wouldn't exist. Just something to think about. ;)


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Nov 06, 2013 13:36 |  #5

I did mention several other things I didn't want, apart from video. Does anyone really want a flappy screen on the mkII?


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Nov 06, 2013 13:42 |  #6

why are you so against video? you sound almost like the old fogies that hated digital when it came out. Video is here and it isn't going away. It also makes life easier for still shooters in certain situations. You are whining about a very useful tool that you never have to utilize if you don't want to.


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Nov 06, 2013 13:52 |  #7

steelbluesleepr wrote in post #16429843 (external link)
why are you so against video? you sound almost like the old fogies that hated digital when it came out. Video is here and it isn't going away. It also makes life easier for still shooters in certain situations. You are whining about a very useful tool that you never have to utilize if you don't want to.

I wasn't seriously trying to make this a thread about the merits and demerits of video......honest.

Briefly, I dislike video as I have been a professional Television Sound engineer for 30 years (BBC) and have worked closely, all my career with TV cameras. I believe in the right tool for the job. yes DSLRs can make inserts and movies in a film style, but they are no substitutes for most of the video that is recorded today using proper video equipment. A lot of this comes down to the ergonomics of the DSLR not the potential image quality (leaning building syndrome apart). I repeatedly made the Video reference in my bullet points to add a (failed) note of slight amusement and frippery :(


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Nov 06, 2013 13:54 |  #8

I don't want any feature that has limited benefit that decreases the reliability of the camera.

No Flip out screen.

No GPS unit covered by light plastic

etc.

While the flip out screen IS a useful thing for times, I would much rather see it support a hard point quick connector on the side for a secondary screen that I can purchase with multiple screen model options.
Support for a 'secondary' swivel screen matching the size of the normal screen, and designed such that if something breaks it will be on the side of the secondary screen 9 times out of 10, not the camera itself. It also gives the option for supporting the option of an even larger screen sizes that mount firmly to the camera itself. I kind of like the idea of being able to pull a 7 or 10 inch screen out of the gear bag for times I need the swivel screen over trying to use a tiny little thing for live view.

And being able to use a 10" field monitor with the camera and not having to lug along a cage if I know I'm going to be shooting off a tripod with no complex movements? Sounds like a great idea to me.


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Nov 06, 2013 14:06 |  #9

That's my thinking about reliability. Sometimes less is more. I worry that as Canon may not have a sensor that is a noticeable improvement over the existing one in the 7D, they will try to 'Flim flam' us with sleight of hand and add unnecessary clutter from other models to distract us from what we really want.


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Nov 06, 2013 14:10 |  #10

Geordie Amanda wrote in post #16429882 (external link)
... as I have been a professional Television Sound engineer for 30 years (BBC)...

So, who is the biggest jerk of the Top Gear guys?
My money is on Jeremy. :D


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Nov 06, 2013 14:16 |  #11

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So, who is the biggest jerk of the Top Gear guys?
My money is on Jeremy. :D

It is safe to say the nicest guy is James :)


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Nov 06, 2013 14:18 |  #12

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It is safe to say the nicest guy is James :)

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Captain Slow is a true English gentleman! :)


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Nov 06, 2013 14:29 |  #13

Dont want.... A crappy banding sensor with crappy Dynamic Range.


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Nov 06, 2013 14:46 |  #14

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Dont want.... A crappy banding sensor with crappy Dynamic Range.

This.


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Nov 06, 2013 14:50 |  #15

I had my camera with me at my cousin's wedding. Taking photos - I was glad to have video capability to get the parents' speeches on video. They didn't have a videographer. I don't use it normally, but I was glad to have it.


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