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10'x20' ... Can this be used as a studio?

 
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Apr 15, 2013 15:41 |  #16

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The image sensor size is irrelevant. What is important is getting a lens on the camera with sufficient focal length to minimize distortion. Minimum is a "normal" lens for the sensor size. i.e. 80mm on 70mm square, 50mm on 35mm, etc. Personally I like to have closer to 85mm for 35mm sensor size even for full length but that is about minimum for head and shoulders.

For the photography newbies - it's the distances between the camera (or your eyes) and the various elements of the scene that affect perspective (the "distortion" referred to in the quote) and not focal length, per se. While using a longer focal length generally induces a photographer to back up from a subject, it's the distance and not the focal length that changes perspective.

Please read our "sticky" (found in the General Photography Talk forum) tutorial titled Perspective Control in Images - Focal Length or Distance?.

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The larger problem is getting the lights positioned high enough to cast pleasing shadows. And getting the lights around to the side enough to create shape etc. Doing white backgrounds will be even more difficult.

I agree with this totally.


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Apr 15, 2013 15:41 as a reply to  @ post 15831054 |  #17

well from what I understand on a crop sensor 35 is about normal, and I have that covered. I understand its better to go longer but we dont always have that luxury :)

Yes lighting will be a PITA, but with some playing around I am sure I can get something that looks good. And being a studio it should be easy to replicate with good notes.




  
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Apr 15, 2013 15:53 as a reply to  @ Littlejon Dsgn's post |  #18

Width will be your Achilles heel; I was using my 3rd car slot in the garage for a while and found it too challenging at 12’X26’. I didn’t want to put up any fixed lights, and using the booms became too cramped. It can be done, just takes some creativity in how to place you portable lights.

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Apr 15, 2013 15:54 |  #19

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Thanks for making the more general statement about how to control perspective.

Littljon, you can find a way to get it done. The frustration comes from not being able to move lights around to try different lighting schemes because of the space limitations.


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Apr 15, 2013 16:01 |  #20

dmward wrote in post #15831054 (external link)
The image sensor size is irrelevant. What is important is getting a lens on the camera with sufficient focal length to minimize distortion. Minimum is a "normal" lens for the sensor size. i.e. 80mm on 70mm square, 50mm on 35mm, etc. Personally I like to have closer to 85mm for 35mm sensor size even for full length but that is about minimum for head and shoulders.

The larger problem is getting the lights positioned high enough to cast pleasing shadows. And getting the lights around to the side enough to create shape etc. Doing white backgrounds will be even more difficult.

I've done model shoots, including full length, in the model's living room which would easily have fit into your space. It wasn't easy but we did it. If I were going to invest the time and energy into building a studio space I'd do everything I could to get it as large as possible.

I agree the lighting is going to be a bear...I would also much rather have FF in that space.


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Apr 15, 2013 16:04 |  #21

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I agree the lighting is going to be a bear...I would also much rather have FF in that space.

I would like to have FF and a studio space 10 times that large :D but it aint happening unless I win the lottery :(

Well the shop needs a good gutten and cleaning anyways so might as well give it a shot :)




  
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Apr 16, 2013 08:13 |  #22

I hear ya on the lottery......my "studio" is my garage....;)


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Apr 17, 2013 11:33 |  #23

This ^^

and if you won't always being doing full length, then this will be a very decent space.


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Apr 17, 2013 11:41 |  #24

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This ^^

and if you won't always being doing full length, then this will be a very decent space.

Nope not always full lenth, but I did want that as an option. Looks like I will be taking a wall down so this will give me closer to 25-30' of length, I realize each foot matters so I will be gaining as much as I can :)




  
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Apr 17, 2013 11:45 |  #25

It's going to be more of a problem - the 10 foot with - than the length, I suspect... you could always go out the doorway for a ways.. but it is hard to get the right light (big umbrella/octobox) on the side you need in a 10 foot width.


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Apr 17, 2013 11:54 |  #26

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It's going to be more of a problem - the 10 foot with - than the length, I suspect... you could always go out the doorway for a ways.. but it is hard to get the right light (big umbrella/octobox) on the side you need in a 10 foot width.

I understand that, but thats one part that wont be changed :( there will be a door on the long wall so if I am only doing head and shoulder shots I could stand outside and shoot the width of the room giving room for lighting. I also have a few ideas to get the lights as close to the walls as possible.




  
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Apr 17, 2013 17:09 |  #27

Come back with a BTS shot when you are done!


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Nov 05, 2013 11:43 as a reply to  @ ksbal's post |  #28

Thought it was time for an update, I have all the demo work done, and have started to rebuild, the space was a unfinished wood framed metal sided "barn" for lack of better words. All the wiring has been redone and should get buttoned up tonight, I have one more sheet of plywood to place on the wall, then the walls are ready for paint. The ceiling I hope to finish enclosing this week to weekend. The goal (or dream since I never meet my time goals) is to be spraying paint on Sunday.

If all else fails it will at least be a bigger cleaner shop if the "studio" part does not end up working, but it looks like it should make a decent space. My wife has been doing great to help with the storage solutions and keeping the work/shop space as neat and clean as possible and tucked back in the corner. So its still a dual purpose space, but I wont have to more couches and backdrops around everytime I wanna shoot.




  
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Nov 05, 2013 13:06 |  #29

Congrats! Progress Made!


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Nov 06, 2013 20:21 |  #30

I have a 10x20 space. It can feel tight at times but I manage to get the job done with it. I've learned the key to a tight space is the right equipment. ex. backdrop support system= manfrotto auto pole 2. Also, century stands with extension arms are important. They let you get your strobes right up to the walls without things like stand legs taking up large footprints. I can photograph a family (with small kids) using left AND right stripboxes and carefully angled extension arms. It's a nuisance but you do the best with what you have.


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