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Looking for examples of APS-C + 135L, 200 2.8L, 85 1.8

 
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Nov 07, 2013 15:35 |  #1

Hey folks,

So I'm looking for a fun prime lens, near `L quality, or straight up `L quality. The goal is to have more reach for outdoor use when shooting scenes and portraits, mainly of people or objects, with a longer focal length for it's effects on background compression with wide apertures. I love the look of the 200mm f2 shots when it comes to outdoor portraits in natural light. They just snap out of the photo. But that lens is well beyond what I'm willing to pay right now, since I'm doing this for pure hobbyist/enthusiast type stuff.

This had me looking at the 200mm 2.8L, the 135mm f2L, and the 85mm 1.8. And specifically how they will look on an APS-C sensor. I tried using the lens archive for this, but it's hard to see any of it from an APS-C sensor (specifically regarding background compression and blur).

Mainly just looking to see if the 85 1.8 on an APS-C sensor has the background blur and scene compression that I like. Or if I have to really just push for a used 200 2.8L or 135f2L.

Any dedicated crop users with some advice on this?

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Nov 07, 2013 15:47 |  #2

60d and 85f1.8

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Nov 07, 2013 15:53 |  #3

MalVeauX wrote in post #16432770 (external link)
The goal is to have more reach for outdoor use when shooting scenes and portraits, mainly of people or objects, with a longer focal length for it's effects on background compression with wide apertures.

"Background compression" or "scene compression" is known as perspective (all about relative sizes of objects at different distances from your eyes or a camera). Perspective is not controlled or affected by the focal length of a lens. Perspective IS controlled by the distances between your eyes or a camera and the various elements of the scene.

Typically, when one chooses a longer focal length lens he/she tends to back away from the main subject in the scene. It's this change in the position (increasing the distance) that creates the "compression".

Please read our "sticky" (found in the General Photography Talk forum) tutorial titled Perspective Control in Images - Focal Length or Distance?.


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Nov 07, 2013 17:58 |  #4

Ive had the 85 1.8 and currently have the 135L. If you can afford it and you dont mind the extra reach the 135 is amazing. Super sharp wide open, the bokeh from the compression at 135 is so smooth. The 85 was a great lens, pretty sharp wide open and pleasing bokeh, but once you use a 135 it will amaze you.


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Nov 07, 2013 20:15 |  #5
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Here, just for you, I created a thread on DPReview (external link) (much easier to park fotos on that site) with samples of the 85f1.8 on 350D in Myanmar. Enjoy.




  
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Here's the alley behind my house, somewhere in Southeast Asia, taken with the 135L on 600D.

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Nov 07, 2013 21:29 |  #7

These were taken with a 7D. First one with an 85mm at f/2 (I rarely shoot it at f/1.8), second with a 135 at f/2.


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Nov 07, 2013 21:31 |  #8

These were taken with a 7D and a 200mm, first image at f/2.8 and second image at f/4. Hope these help you decide.


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Nov 07, 2013 21:37 |  #9

Thanks so much for the examples & link for other examples. That's the kind of comparisons I'm looking for.

Looks like the 85mm 1.8 will do the job for now. Just nabbed it used from a member on the forum at a great price.

Eventually I would love to nab the 135mm f2, but only if a really sweet used deal falls in my lap.

Thanks all!

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Nov 07, 2013 21:47 |  #10

Abu Mahendra wrote in post #16433416 (external link)
Here's the alley behind my house, somewhere in Southeast Asia, taken with the 135L on 600D.

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Something about this image gets me. The leaves and the in-focus portion of the wall seem to in two different "planes". Or my eyes are playing tricks on me.




  
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Sibil wrote in post #16433634 (external link)
Something about this image gets me. The leaves and the in-focus portion of the wall seem to in two different "planes". Or my eyes are playing tricks on me.

That's the 135L for you! It almost looks like it was taken with a tilt-shift lens.




  
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Nov 07, 2013 22:25 |  #12

Abu Mahendra wrote in post #16433677 (external link)
That's the 135L for you! It almost looks like it was taken with a tilt-shift lens.

Yes, it does.




  
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Nov 07, 2013 22:33 |  #13

Sibil wrote in post #16433634 (external link)
Something about this image gets me. The leaves and the in-focus portion of the wall seem to in two different "planes". Or my eyes are playing tricks on me.

Curious about the apertures used. Is it F2? The DOF is about three to four feet. It looks like F4?


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My 135L, a tortous history behind it. As you can see from the picture, I live in a lush and green place. This is due to the year-round humidity and temperate/hot climate. This climate is a veritable mold factory on lenses. I used to have to take out the lenses out for a five minute tan under the sun every week just to keep the mold at bay. One day I put the 135L out to the sun, and forgot about it. I came back 45 minutes later to a lens whose coatings on the rear element had vaporized onto the lens cap due to the intense heat build-up, leaving behind a terrible haze on the lens element. Optically the lens was done. Or so I thought. I took it in to Canon (Singapore) only to be pleasantly surprised that they'd charge under $200 to replace the rear element. The lens came back as new. Months later I sold it because it was simply too long for my tastes and needs on an APS-C sensor body. I am now looking to pick one up again for my 6D.




  
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Sibil wrote in post #16433634 (external link)
Something about this image gets me. The leaves and the in-focus portion of the wall seem to in two different "planes". Or my eyes are playing tricks on me.

l89kip wrote in post #16433698 (external link)
Curious about the apertures used. Is it F2? The DOF is about three to four feet. It looks like F4?

I'm pretty certain it was f/2. I certainly didn't buy the 135L f/2 to shoot it at f/4, and it hardly ever left f/2. The shot was from quite a distance and on a crop body, remember.




  
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