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Nov 07, 2013 09:15 |  #1

Hi everyone,
In a few weeks I am doing portraits for the swim team of a local high school and my plan is to do some stylized composites for the portraits of the individual team members. I've been practicing my lighting and processing in the example below. This is just a quick picture I took of myself to test out the lighting and so that I could practice the compositing technique in PS. Please let me know your opinion and advice on what could be done differently if anything. Thanks.

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Nov 07, 2013 16:21 |  #2

I like it! Someone more anal might point out the perspective of the pool edge right behind you is off kilter from the rest of the image (but I won't).


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Nov 08, 2013 07:39 |  #3

I would say that you are definitely off to a great start!


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Nov 08, 2013 11:46 |  #4

I've found that when I go back and look at all the composites I've done in the past, I always regret the amount of light I place behind the subject (left side behind you)




  
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Nov 08, 2013 12:16 |  #5

I am trying to learn this as well and you are off to a much better start than I am




  
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Nov 08, 2013 12:19 |  #6

add me to the list for advise for team individual wrestling shots . Yours look good




  
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Nov 08, 2013 12:40 |  #7

Use the same, or close FL for each image
Use the same or close to the same camera height
Add an avg bg color cast, to place subject into the scene
that's all I can think of at the moment


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Nov 08, 2013 12:44 |  #8

Thanks for the advise so far. Gangingwood, I agree with that and I have brought down the opacity of the glow a few times already. One of the biggest challenges for me so far is figuring out what size the subject should be in relation to the background.


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Nov 08, 2013 13:06 |  #9

for me the bigger the better. this one I didn't go big enough

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this one was a little better
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Nov 08, 2013 13:10 |  #10

ganginwood wrote in post #16435190 (external link)
for me the bigger the better. this one I didn't go big enough
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this one was a little better
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Good jog with the full body shot. I know it's hard to get the feet to look like they're actually stepping on the background.


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Nov 08, 2013 13:58 |  #11

I'll post a few of mine:

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Nov 08, 2013 15:47 as a reply to  @ rsieminski's post |  #12

I think these are all pretty killer.

I'd love to know how to do this as well.........so I think you guys that have posted examples should make a nice tutorial and put it up here. Doesn't that sound like just a swell idea?


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Nov 08, 2013 16:03 |  #13

There are many skills involved, starting with off camera lighting, to HDR, to PS knockouts, to layer masks, to adjustment layers, .... There are entire books written on the subject. Matt Kloskowski has a great book out on the subject:
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That will get you started.


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Nov 08, 2013 18:35 |  #14

Very nice image, great effort and I'm sure it's much better than I could do as I have hardly worked with composites. I love the leading lines of the huge duct work and ceiling construction and their reflections in the pool. A few places to perfect:

1) If you're going to go for the "straight on" perspective, you better make it perfectly straight on. That is, place the subject exactly in the middle of the two starting blocks, level your horizon, and make sure that you yourself are exactly in the middle of the two starting blocks and that your lens is perfectly parallel to the edge of the pool. When you get it exactly right, you REALLY suck the viewer in with all of the perfect symmetry and leading lines.

2) There is a huge difference in contrast on the left side of the frame and the right side of the frame...I would even that out more. It almost looks washed out on the left from some sort of flare.

3) You're lacking light on the bottom half of the subject…this may not matter too much, but if you plan on capturing any more than what you’re showing with your sample here, it will only look much worse.

4) I would get rid of the numbers "5" and "6" on the starting blocks as they are irrelevant to the individual portraits. This may seem overly nit-picky, but if you're going to use 1 background for all of the individual portraits, you might as well make it as good as it can possibly be.

Good luck and have fun with it!


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Nov 11, 2013 10:23 |  #15

MattJohnRobinson wrote in post #16435964 (external link)
Very nice image, great effort and I'm sure it's much better than I could do as I have hardly worked with composites. I love the leading lines of the huge duct work and ceiling construction and their reflections in the pool. A few places to perfect:

1) If you're going to go for the "straight on" perspective, you better make it perfectly straight on. That is, place the subject exactly in the middle of the two starting blocks, level your horizon, and make sure that you yourself are exactly in the middle of the two starting blocks and that your lens is perfectly parallel to the edge of the pool. When you get it exactly right, you REALLY suck the viewer in with all of the perfect symmetry and leading lines.

2) There is a huge difference in contrast on the left side of the frame and the right side of the frame...I would even that out more. It almost looks washed out on the left from some sort of flare.

3) You're lacking light on the bottom half of the subject…this may not matter too much, but if you plan on capturing any more than what you’re showing with your sample here, it will only look much worse.

4) I would get rid of the numbers "5" and "6" on the starting blocks as they are irrelevant to the individual portraits. This may seem overly nit-picky, but if you're going to use 1 background for all of the individual portraits, you might as well make it as good as it can possibly be.

Good luck and have fun with it!

Thanks for the advice. You are not being overly nit-picky, it is good to get an outside opinion because since I've been working on the image I get used to looking at it and it becomes hard to notice things that could be done better.


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