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Nov 10, 2013 15:51 |  #16

onona wrote in post #16440171 (external link)
It's the photo that counts, not what was used to take it.

But there are good and bad photo's and cell phones are great for documenting your car accident, but a very poor choice for documenting a wedding.




  
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Nov 10, 2013 16:57 |  #17

If shes doing it for free then this is not "serious"

People DO care about resolution and quality. It just depends on the situation. DSLRs are by no means a dead format, cameras are cameras period regardless of format. Different cameras come in handy for different situations, thats all.

The event didnt look too serious, I wouldnt care about quality either.




  
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Nov 10, 2013 17:57 |  #18

onona wrote in post #16440171 (external link)
It's the photo that counts, not what was used to take it.

True, but it's hard to claim you're a race car driver when you drive a Ford Pinto!




  
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Nov 10, 2013 20:51 |  #19

RandyMN wrote in post #16440229 (external link)
But there are good and bad photo's and cell phones are great for documenting your car accident, but a very poor choice for documenting a wedding.

I've seen some excellent photos born from camera phones; and I can think of a number of photographers whose offer to photograph my wedding (should it ever happen!) would be gladly accepted even if they said they were only going to use a camera phone.

Yes, I get it; the average wedding photographer walks into the place of worship (or barn) with just smartphone in hand, business might not last long. But this does not negate the abilities of a camera phone in the hands of an exceptional photographer.

Anyway, I've said what I need to say, particularly in verbose manner in my related link below, so I'm out---but PM's always welcome.


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Nov 10, 2013 20:59 |  #20

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I've seen some excellent photos born from camera phones; and I can think of a number of photographers whose offer to photograph my wedding (should it ever happen!) would be gladly accepted even if they said they were only going to use a camera phone.

Yes, I get it; the average wedding photographer walks into the place of worship (or barn) with just smartphone in hand, business might not last long. But this does not negate the abilities of a camera phone in the hands of an exceptional photographer.

Anyway, I've said what I need to say, particularly in verbose manner in my related link below, so I'm out---but PM's always welcome.

Any great craftsman or artist knows the best way to produce their best work is the proper choice of tools for the job. An artist has many brushes to choose from and a builder has many tools. To limit them with one brush or one hammer and saw could possibly still allow them to create something of value, but why?




  
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Nov 10, 2013 21:04 |  #21

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If I am asked to bring my camera to an event and be the photog (not pro, BTW), I have no hesitation grabing those extended arms and pulling them out of my way, if they are within my reach.

That's assault in most of the US. People around here will slap you in the mouth for that.




  
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Nov 10, 2013 21:40 |  #22

RandyMN wrote in post #16440229 (external link)
But there are good and bad photo's and cell phones are great for documenting your car accident, but a very poor choice for documenting a wedding.

If documenting is all you're doing, you can shoot anything with anything.


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Nov 10, 2013 21:44 |  #23

Elfstop wrote in post #16441009 (external link)
That's assault in most of the US. People around here will slap you in the mouth for that.

LOL, depends on how gentle you are.




  
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Nov 10, 2013 21:45 |  #24

I think DSLR's are dying not necessarily because of the image quality they deliver...I mean new DSLRs like the D800, 5Diii or 1DX are how many more times as powerful as an iPhone 4s???

I think that DSLRs were a "noobsumer" fad, like netbooks, that crashed when people realized that extra buttons and dials didn't make them better photographers. And when they realized that their phones did the same thing for them, and were 100 times more convenient, then it was all over for NiCan's "entry level" DSLR market.

On the pro side of things...a 5Diii does not make my pictures better than my 5Dii. It's not THAT much of an upgrade. Mirorless are actually making my life easier in some areas...but even they have a hard time competing against the cost and convenience of phones.

My rant... :)




  
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Nov 10, 2013 21:46 |  #25

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Nov 10, 2013 21:47 |  #26

cdifoto wrote in post #16441069 (external link)
If documenting is all you're doing, you can shoot anything with anything.

I guess I considered shooting a wedding photojournalist style as documenting events of a wedding. Major difference between using a cell phone with limited choices and a professional camera body with various lenses ISO, reach, shutter, aperture etc.

I guess you interpret the meaning different than I do since documenting damage after an accident has completely different meaning than documenting the events at a wedding.




  
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Nov 10, 2013 22:25 |  #27
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xchangx wrote in post #16441086 (external link)
Brad Mangin shoots for MLB and published a book with instagram shots:
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But, the difference between a still life versus a sport photo is the movement of the action. Shooting a baseball player standing around doing nothing is no different than shooting an apple resting on a table. As long as the subject isn't moving at all, you can take photos of them even using a field camera or view camera...4x5 or 8x10. As long as there are movements, you need your DSLR here.


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Nov 10, 2013 22:45 |  #28

RandyMN wrote in post #16441089 (external link)
I guess I considered shooting a wedding photojournalist style as documenting events of a wedding. Major difference between using a cell phone with limited choices and a professional camera body with various lenses ISO, reach, shutter, aperture etc.

I guess you interpret the meaning different than I do since documenting damage after an accident has completely different meaning than documenting the events at a wedding.

I consider professional wedding photography to be more than just documenting what happens.


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Nov 10, 2013 22:55 |  #29

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I consider professional wedding photography to be more than just documenting what happens.

You are playing with words. Some brides want a completely photo-journalistic approach to documenting their events. This means no interference from the photographer other than simply allowing the events of the day to take place and making darn sure you capture them. Perhaps that is not your style, but regardless of how you define 'documenting' the events of a wedding, clearly more is involved than just pointing and clicking the shutter.

It's still photography and can tax all of the creative talents of the best in the business. It's getting off track of my original point by playing with the definition of 'documenting'. I only used that term to compare an accident with a wedding using a cell phone.




  
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Nov 10, 2013 23:12 |  #30

Sibil wrote in post #16439085 (external link)
If I am asked to bring my camera to an event and be the photog (not pro, BTW), I have no hesitation grabing those extended arms and pulling them out of my way, if they are within my reach.

I had a negative reaction to her. I literally swiped her out of the way as if it were primal instinct. Took me a second to catch myself and apologize to her(she was super pissed). Not sure what came over me.


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