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Nov 11, 2013 15:24 |  #121
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DreDaze wrote in post #16442999 (external link)
it's not any more ridiculous than your statement that the lenses can't be repaired...at least i have proof proving that one wrong...

Proof?...nawww. Where do we send said lense for warranty work? My point is there are no service centers. We all don't have your mechanical prowess. Everyone is right...this is getting silly. Buy the lens ... and live with the consequences.


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Nov 11, 2013 15:26 |  #122

Bakewell wrote in post #16443047 (external link)
Proof?...nawww. Where do we send said lense for warranty work? My point is there are no service centers. We all don't have your mechanical prowess. Everyone is right...this is getting silly. Buy the lens ... and live with the consequences.

you didn't just say that...you also said they can't be repaired(and even bolded it)...i never commented on the service centers...just the fact that they can be repaired

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this lens cannot be repaired (maybe somewhere in China...good luck with that!)


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Nov 11, 2013 15:37 |  #123

Bakewell wrote in post #16443020 (external link)
You didn't have to say that...it's indicated in your gear list.

If you say so.

I see you own Tamron lenses as well, you must hate Canon as well? bw!


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Nov 11, 2013 15:53 |  #124
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Tmuussoni wrote in post #16443090 (external link)
If you say so.

I see you own Tamron lenses as well, you must hate Canon as well? bw!

You have sold every Canon lens you ever purchased. I own two great L lenses. What the heck are you mumbling about? What kind kind of twisted logic are you using? I own 2 great L lenses therefore I hate them? Your logic (term used loosely) escapes me.


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Nov 11, 2013 16:27 |  #125

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To my knowledge there are like 4 L lenses that does not have weathersealing, the 70-200 f/4, the 35L, the 24L and the TS-E 24L.. but thats to MY knowledge. BUT a weathersealed lens does not mean it can be in a rainstorm or a duststorm and nothing bad will ever happen. Normal rain and normal dust should not be a problem for weathersealed lenses.

135 and 85 are also not weather sealed fyi. Sealing or not, I'm not taking it in the rain, so shouldnt be an issue. Do like that feature for keeping the sensor clean (a least I think that's how it works).


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Nov 11, 2013 16:29 |  #126

Bakewell wrote in post #16443150 (external link)
You have sold every Canon lens you ever purchased. I own two great L lenses. What the heck are you mumbling about? What kind kind of twisted logic are you using? I own 2 great L lenses therefore I hate them? Your logic (term used loosely) escapes me.

I sold some lenses because I needed the money. It happens, it's that simple. You are the one who used this "twisted" logic earlier and claiming me not owning a certain Canon lens at this particular moment makes me hate the whole brand (Canon), which is certainly not true. It's silly. Therefore I was trying to make a joke with your logic. That joke did not seem to pan out, I admit...

All I know is you never even probably tried the Samyang 14/2.8 and yet you make such false claims regarding it's presumed bad quality. Samyang 14/2.8 is an awesome lens. One can hardly find better price/performance ratio on the market. It's popularity, all the awesome image samples on these forums, and numerous test results (e.g. the DxOMark result) are testimonies of that success. Just because a lens is cheaper lens than another one does not always automatically mean it's inferior lens in every way like you persistently claimed earlier. There are too many variables which contribute to the matter. That's all what I have been trying to say to you. But whatever. I give up now. Have nice day. :)


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Nov 11, 2013 16:34 |  #127
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wait, i got lost in this thread a long time ago.... i have noticed that the there are more people that voted L lenses matter. but im sure theres more to the story. I do believe that L's are a better option for the most part, but im sure there are some other lenses that, If used in the right way, could bring up some greater shots.

Like some zeiss lenses and ive heard that there are some really good nikon lenses as well.

Anyways, are there signs of internet bullying here? I mean, i could use this for a research proposal for my social work class.



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Nov 11, 2013 16:47 as a reply to  @ jjaenagle's post |  #128

It's easy to talk **** on the internet, everybody knows that.

Come say that to my face, that's a different story.




  
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Nov 11, 2013 18:06 |  #129

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Been out making photos. You should give it a try one day...you just might like it:cool:

Why don't you post a few then? Last time I heard from you you were headed into the rainforest or some other exotic place and had only posted a broken link to your photos. I'm sure everyone would love to see some of your shots why we hear you extole all this advice you're so good at.;)


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Nov 12, 2013 00:02 |  #130

"Worth it" is almost totally subjective. I started out with a few 3rd party lenses and I got what I thought were great shots with them. Honestly, most mid-level and above lenses from any manufacturer are better than the photogs behind them, especially myself. :D

I like the support I get from the CPS program by being all Canon, I drop my camera and lenses in the mail and they come back cleaned, check and calibrated normally free of charge even out of warranty, plus I can call them up and shoot with just about whatever I like for few days, just pay a little insurance to send the gear back when I'm done. Canon prices are high, but they do try to reward those loyal to the brand, so my answer is yes....


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Nov 12, 2013 03:00 |  #131

Tmuussoni wrote in post #16442795 (external link)
If there's one thing I've learned for a lens to have a huge price tag does not mean it's automatically the best lens in every category like you seem to think. Of course I have owned whole bunch of L-lenses. At this particular moment I own exactly , apart from some older FD-lenses. But that is merely a coincidence how my lens collection has turned out to be lately. For example I found the Sigma 35 Art better than the 35L and Zeiss 135/f2 better than the 135L. But what does that has to do with anything? My next L-lens is probably going to be a telephoto if that matters. And no, I don't think i'm biased. I rather have open mind to all lens manufacturers. Doesn't matter if it's Canon, Nikon, Samyang, Leica, Zeiss and so on. A good product is a good product. It's that simple. You simply make it sound as if only Canon is the only manufacturer capable of making quality products and that Samyang is made from paper and you simply look at it and it will magically break down into ashes. It simply could not be further away from the truth. :shock:

I live in Europe. No, I never had to send my Samyangs for repairs. I've sent Canon 50/1.4 once for repairs and I have no idea where they eventually repaired it or in what country. But frankly I don't even really care as long as warranty is valid. Here it's the seller's responsibility to take care of warranty issues if warranty is still valid. It would be stupid to try repair something yourself if it's still under warranty. And the way I understood Samyang has a large distribution center in Poland (if you live in Europe) so that's probably where they will fix them. And even if it would be repaired in China I would not care. And by the way Samyang is from Korea, not China. The main thing that it's repaired and the maintence network works. And it certainly works here for Samyang just like it works for Canon. After all it is the law (consumer protection law should be pretty similar in all EU countries).

I'm partial agree with you. The zeiss 135mm is more expensive than canon 135mm. L lens not mean best in the category and most expensive.


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Nov 16, 2013 13:50 |  #132
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Thorrulz wrote in post #16443495 (external link)
Why don't you post a few then? Last time I heard from you you were headed into the rainforest or some other exotic place and had only posted a broken link to your photos. I'm sure everyone would love to see some of your shots why we hear you extole all this advice you're so good at.;)

he's too busy "selling" (giving away) his snapshots to hotels to decorate their lobbies. bw!


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Nov 16, 2013 15:24 |  #133
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Mackeral wrote in post #16456466 (external link)
he's too busy selling his snapshots to hotels to decorate their lobbies. bw!

Hey fish, why don't you all let us in where you sell your photos. Or do you just give them away to your grandma so you can receive a nice compliment from someone at least. Afterall, grandma's love everything their grand childern do.
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Nov 16, 2013 18:33 |  #134
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To me, no. For the most part, anyway. I had the 85 1.8, 135L and 200 2.8L II. I sold them all in order to buy a Sigma 70-200 OS. It was the right move for me. If I ever upgrade my 28-75, it will be to a Tamron 24-70 VC, not the 24-70 II. That is just too much money for me. About the only red-ring I have a lust for is the EF 24mm f/1.4L II. I just got the 24 IS. For 1/3 the price, it will have to do.




  
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Nov 16, 2013 18:35 |  #135
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To me, no. For the most part, anyway. I had the 85 1.8, 135L and 200 2.8L II. I sold them all in order to buy a Sigma 70-200 OS. It was the right move for me. If I ever upgrade my 28-75, it will be to a Tamron 24-70 VC, not the 24-70 II. That is just too much money for me. About the only red-ring I have a lust for is the EF 24mm f/1.4L II. I just got the 24 IS. For 1/3 the price, it will have to do.

why that lens (24L)??? JW



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