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Is owning a Canon Rebel a joke?

 
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Nov 12, 2013 06:39 |  #226

Copperny wrote in post #16443888 (external link)
I'm going to post this link once again, this is good reading.
http://digital-photography-school.com …-is-better-than-you-think (external link)
or scroll half way down to "blog post by Jingna Zhang" take a look at her photos and the equipment she uses. Some of you will be shocked!

Good article and, as you say, some good images. As the saying goes, it ain't what you got, it's what you do with it.


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Nov 12, 2013 07:00 |  #227

I am proud to say that my first DSLR was a Canon Rebel XTi and my first Film SLR was a Rebel. I took many, many images from both and learned so much over the years with both of them. Photography is a journey and enjoying the images through the equipment we have at that moment in time. I still have both Rebel bodies and when I feel like pulling them out of the camera bag I remember all the good moments that allowed me to capture. Enjoy your Rebel Journeys.


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Nov 12, 2013 07:01 |  #228

I love my super Rebel though I am saving up for a 7D II should it materialize. ;)


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Nov 12, 2013 07:30 as a reply to  @ Phoenixkh's post |  #229

To me, pushing the envelope with less expensive body/lens combo, to capture the best picture possible, is part of the fun in photography.

As fas as using a Rebel, people in my circle are more fixated on the megapixel count than the body type. So when they see me using a 1D body, the typical question always is "how many megapixels is that thing?"




  
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Nov 12, 2013 07:41 |  #230

I say you have to start somewhere and its a good tool to learn with.


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Nov 12, 2013 09:16 as a reply to  @ jskaggs72's post |  #231

I haven't read all 16 pages of this but I can imagine where it went.

IMHO, based on the original post...

If you are looking for a status symbol that will make friends and strangers think you are cool or you are looking for some sort of crutch that will make you think you are taking better pictures, buy a Leica.

Otherwise, just go and learn to see light and take pictures with your rebel. Upgrading bodies will not do much for your skills.


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Nov 12, 2013 09:18 as a reply to  @ jskaggs72's post |  #232

pinhole camera photography is the real deal < P & S cameras are good enough for me < APS-C is much better u noob < I went ff and never looked back < medium format rocks < large format biatches u all suck < ...?

Totally unrelated:

bad photography < good photography


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Nov 12, 2013 09:21 |  #233

I haven't read all 16 pages of this but I can imagine where it went.

They're actually worth the read. This thread has been great because it's stayed on topic, there's really been minimal knocking of the Rebel, and there's been some humor thrown in there too (some by yours truly) and this thread actually has people with a sense of humor, something far too many POTN threads are lacking. :)


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Nov 12, 2013 11:38 |  #234

Copperny wrote in post #16443888 (external link)
I'm going to post this link once again, this is good reading.
http://digital-photography-school.com …-is-better-than-you-think (external link)

Thanks, it's very interesting!
As for the thread discussion, I can tell that I've never seen any Real Pro in any field who may judge someone by gear only. The bottom line.




  
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Nov 12, 2013 11:48 |  #235

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Thanks, it's very interesting!
As for the thread discussion, I can tell that I've never seen any Real Pro in any field who may judge someone by gear only. The bottom line.

Good point. In my area of expertise where I am a professional, I can tell you that I have peers that have $250k CNC machines, and those that have $30k machines and the results are not much different on most things. We have over the years invested in a few very expensive CNC machines, but the reasons for "upgrading" were probably 10% finished product related(really a bonus not a consideration) and 90% "professional reasons of need" like ROI and capacity vs. break even numbers.

Photography is a different business, but it is a business accessible by hobbyists which makes it unique. I think you will find most people doing something for a living will try like hell to get by with the minimal investment until their business dictates otherwise as that will yeild them the highest profits, while hobbyists by nature indulge in excessive spending in their hobby.


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Nov 12, 2013 12:00 |  #236

Nick3434 wrote in post #16445499 (external link)
I think you will find most people doing something for a living will try like hell to get by with the minimal investment until their business dictates otherwise as that will yeild them the highest profits, while hobbyists by nature indulge in excessive spending in their hobby.

Very true.




  
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Nov 12, 2013 12:01 |  #237

A few more points.

There are probably more talented hobbyist photograpghers on this site than professionals in sports and photojournalism etc....they just have another career that is likely more viable. Just becuase someone does something for a living does not mean they are the best at it, and visa versa.

I find that the term "pro" is used so much here. I think that many here are obsessed with "pro" things. Maybe because that would validate your hobby in some way as making you a better hobbyist?

Not sure but the moral of this thread is you should be wayyy more concerned about your composition, light and post production or whatever brings you personal joy ours hiving your interpretation of this hobby, than whatever some other hobbyist or pro thinks about how you should go about creating that interpretation. Photography is art, some things are widely appreciated, but there is no tangible score to be kept. I quite dislike the style of a few guys on here, however I appreciate their photos much more than the myriad of generic crap with perfect focus at f1.4 from an out focus point.....


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Nov 12, 2013 12:46 |  #238

Fitness Freak wrote in post #16445147 (external link)
They're actually worth the read. This thread has been great because it's stayed on topic, there's really been minimal knocking of the Rebel, and there's been some humor thrown in there too (some by yours truly) and this thread actually has people with a sense of humor, something far too many POTN threads are lacking. :)

Truth!


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Nov 12, 2013 13:45 |  #239

RandyMN wrote in post #16442674 (external link)
Where do you get these facts? If Cameras are anything like cars it is the high production low cost models that have little profit margin while the luxury models are where all the money is made. Overall I'm sure all models make profits, just a lot more low cost models sold so overall it makes money. If you think about it, how much can be marked up on a 600.00 camera compared to a 3000.00 camera?

The profit/unit is lowest for the Rebels. But the quantity is so high that the total profit from Rebels becomes quite high.

But remember that even when the profit margin is lower, the non-profit part of the Rebel sales includes R&D+production costs+material+logisti​cs. And the Rebel line can swallow a huuuuge total R&D cost. Not only because the Rebels has the highest need for design optimizations that reduces production and material costs - so the production costs of xxD and xD cameras can also be reduced even if too few xD cameras are sold to finanse any larger production optimizations.

And thr P&S + Rebel cameras just have to have video - that the higher-end cameras gets for free.

In the end, you'll end up with a situation that each Rebel gives a quite small profit, but the Rebel and P&S cameras pays for a huge part of the total R&D.


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Nov 12, 2013 13:49 |  #240

dscri001 wrote in post #16443061 (external link)
A lot of well put comments here. I also get irritated when people talk/look down on rebels. They're all cameras, all design to take photographs. One of the most memorable moments I had shooting was at an airshow practice with my 7D and 55-250. The guy next to me had a 500 f4 and a 400 DO, both attached to a 1D3 and 1D4. Of course I was jealous that I couldn't afford that type of gear and was sure he was getting spectacular shots. I felt quite embarrassed about my set up. It wasn't until he turns to me and asks how my shots were coming out and complimented the images I had gotten so far. Next thing I know, he's walking over with the 400 and a 1.4 tc and says 'here, see how you like this.' Let's just say I was in heaven for the next hour or so. And with his help, I made some of my best shots ever. Aside from iq, build quality etc etc, the thing I remembered most was his attitude and is something that will stick with me forever.

Now and then, a truly nice person is born :)


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